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How much did your HI change, 12 Dec 2019 to 6 Jan 2020  

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  1. 1. How much did your HI change, 12 Dec 2019 to 6 Jan 2020

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13 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

I don't mean to be a noodge! But, I believe that the correct term is "indices" rather than "indexes". As fond as you are of correcting me, I find it delightful to correct you now and then! 

 

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With Argentinian System i played with 2 handicap at my home course from the tips. We don´t have index. With the new system i have 2.3 index and i will play with 1 handicap at my home course so a dif

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It doesn’t matter.  The raw scores are irrelevant.  Only the differentials matter, and those remain the same, as calculated by the rules in effect at the time.

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4 hours ago, bkuehn1952 said:

When my index is computed under the WHS it most definitely will be retroactive in the sense that the same set of scores dating back to prior to 10/1/2019, will be used for my "new" index.  

And there is no way the USGA will be able to determine if the "81" I posted included only net double bogey or less because all they have is my old ESC adjusted total.

It doesn’t matter.  The raw scores are irrelevant.  Only the differentials matter, and those remain the same, as calculated by the rules in effect at the time.

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Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
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9 minutes ago, David in FL said:

It doesn’t matter.  The raw scores are irrelevant.  Only the differentials matter, and those remain the same, as calculated by the rules in effect at the time.

Right.

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14 hours ago, bkuehn1952 said:

When my index is computed under the WHS it most definitely will be retroactive in the sense that the same set of scores dating back to prior to 10/1/2019, will be used for my "new" index.  

And there is no way the USGA will be able to determine if the "81" I posted included only net double bogey or less because all they have is my old ESC adjusted total.

If it was important for people to continue to have a Handicap Index continuously, the only practical way is to accept the available scoring history as is, with ESC applied under the then-current rules.  Otherwise, you'd have to wait until you've entered 3 scores (54 holes) under the new rules, and nobody wants to wait.

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Mine went from 2.9 down slightly to 2.6. Easiest handicap drop I ever had. 😉

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Mine is down a few tenths, 5.1 to 4.8

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I dropped .2 from 6.9 to 6.7

Driver: :callaway: Rogue Max ST LS
Woods:  :cobra: Darkspeed LS 3Wood/3Hybrid
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Mine dropped two-tenths as well, 8.1 to 7.9

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Natalie’s went from 1.4 to 1.0. Someone else I saw was 0.0 to +0.5. Some others I saw went up a bit.

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Looks like mine went down from 6.1 to 6.0. 

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Checked this morning and mine went from 9.1 to 8.9. If only it were always that easy to lower it.

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We haven’t updated yet.  
 

I wonder if it’ll take a little longer for those that don’t have an off-season...

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In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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The new App will still not function properly.
It loads to sign in and then crashes.
I've uninstalled and re-installed it a couple of times.

Also, Ghin site is still inactive to lookup my handicap.

Guess they haven't worked out all the bugs yet.

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59 minutes ago, David in FL said:

We haven’t updated yet.  
I wonder if it’ll take a little longer for those that don’t have an off-season...

 

52 minutes ago, Club Rat said:

The new App will still not function properly.
It loads to sign in and then crashes.
I've uninstalled and re-installed it a couple of times.

Also, Ghin site is still inactive to lookup my handicap.

Guess they haven't worked out all the bugs yet.

I've installed the new GHIN App without a problem, and portions of it work OK, the Golfer Lookup, and my scoring history, my current HI.  However, anything that requires access to individual golf course information hangs it up, score posting or Course Handicap calculations.  The same is true with the GHIN.com website.  I'm guessing that they're seeing really heavy traffic, but I don't know enough to guess whether that's part of the problem right now.  .  @David in FL, we have year-round posting in Virginia, so that's not the issue, it might just be different state associations will be up on different timetables.  I also tried to install the updated VSGA App, which has a portal to GHIN for score entry, and that failed, so my problems may be due to issues at VSGA.

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It’s up now, but keeps crashing.  The new GHIN app looks a lot more laborious than the prior edition.  We’ll see.

My index dropped 0.1 as well...

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Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
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It’s busy. People are pounding it.

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Mine is down from 12.5 to 12.4.

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I was just forwarded a message our pro got from the VSGA's Handicap Director.  It simply said the USGA is having performance issues, and is working on it.  We'll hear more when they know more.

Dave

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