General COVID-19 Topic

[iacas]

Gilead data suggests coronavirus patients are responding to treatment

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The outcomes in patients at a Chicago hospital offer only a snapshot of remdesivir’s...

 

[CarlSpackler]

Gov DeWhine said that they will start opening Ohio on 5/1. I doubt it will be aggressive, but hopefully hair salons, dentists, and chiropractors will start opening. People are looking pretty shaggy and I would like to get this cavity fixed. If not, I may need to obtain some figure skates, start a fire, and fix it myself. 

I’m guessing that golf courses still need to operate as they have been with no touch / social distancing, and restaurants will still be carry out only. Perhaps there is a glimmer of light at the end of this tunnel though. 

[iacas]

1 hour ago, CarlSpackler said:

chiropractors

My chiropractor has been open in PA. Some people need that just to be able to walk around; I'm surprised those would close.

[dennyjones]

9 hours ago, billchao said:

South Korea: More recovered coronavirus patients test positive

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At least 116 people cleared of the virus have tested positive again, raising questions for authorities.

 

This is the scariest post of the day.....Hopefully their first test was a false positive.

[CarlSpackler]

8 hours ago, iacas said:

My chiropractor has been open in PA. Some people need that just to be able to walk around; I'm surprised those would close.

It’s crazy. My wife was in an accident back in November and has been in pain through all this. My brother has avoided back surgery and pain meds with regular decompression and has been in excruciating pain. I can see dentists being told to cancel cleanings and checkups, but to cancel fillings and other work is ridiculous. The state wanted to be able to raid their PPE if needed. 

[iacas]

9 hours ago, dennyjones said:

This is the scariest post of the day.....Hopefully their first test was a false positive.

It's highly unlikely. It would be different than almost every virus, ever.

[dennyjones]

2 hours ago, iacas said:

It's highly unlikely. It would be different than almost every virus, ever.

True...

The news is reporting that some places will be opening up soon, dentist, hair salons, etc in various states.    I don't think I'm alone is wishing the best to those that are the first to report back to work.   I agree we need the country back up and running but extreme caution is necessary to prevent a second wave of the virus.

[ghalfaire]

3 hours ago, dennyjones said:

True...

The news is reporting that some places will be opening up soon, dentist, hair salons, etc in various states.    I don't think I'm alone is wishing the best to those that are the first to report back to work.   I agree we need the country back up and running but extreme caution is necessary to prevent a second wave of the virus.

Well we do need to begin opening up and I hope the best for those that are the first to report for work.   But the fact is that until there is a vaccine, we won't stop the virus cold.  Also worth remembering is the quarantine was intended to slow the infection rate so we didn't overwhelm the Health Care systems. It was never intended to be a solution to anything other than that.  It would appear it has done a good job of slowing the infection rate.  But we cannot stay quarantined until a vaccine is available.  That's estimated to be a year or more.   We now seem to have a few treatments that are working and saving some lives so maybe this is a good time to start testing the waters and see what happens.

I don't say this lightly as I am in that old people group that seems to be more at risk of death or permanent disability if I contract the virus.  But I'm an American too, and we cannot destroy the economy in the process of trying to avoid infection.  I don't want my posterity growing up in a third world country.

[iacas]

 

Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers

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The researchers claim their findings suggest that between 48,000 and 81,000 people in...

[dennyjones]

Pennsylvania State Senate voted to override the Governor's stay at home order.  Pennsylvania State Senate

I expect that to happen in Michigan also

[iacas]

Just now, dennyjones said:

Pennsylvania State Senate voted to override the Governor's stay at home order.  Pennsylvania State Senate

I expect that to happen in Michigan also

Wolf has said he’s going to veto that bill.

And they won’t have enough to override his veto.

It’s a little noise that ultimately won’t result in anything.

[iacas]

CDC reviewing ‘stunning’ universal testing results from Boston homeless shelter

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now “actively looking into” results from universal COVID-19 testing at Pine Street Inn homeless shelter.

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Of the 397 people tested, 146 people tested positive. Not a single one had any symptoms.

The more of these we see, the better the news is overall.

[billchao]

20 hours ago, dennyjones said:

This is the scariest post of the day.....Hopefully their first test was a false positive.

It really just leads to more questions. If it's a false positive, how accurate are the tests to begin with?

If it's not a false positive and the virus can be detected after patients recover, is it still transmittable?

3 hours ago, iacas said:

 

Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers

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The researchers claim their findings suggest that between 48,000 and 81,000 people in...

 

I feel like this testing should be more widespread for a number of reasons.

[No Mulligans]

5 hours ago, ghalfaire said:

Well we do need to begin opening up and I hope the best for those that are the first to report for work.   But the fact is that until there is a vaccine, we won't stop the virus cold.  Also worth remembering is the quarantine was intended to slow the infection rate so we didn't overwhelm the Health Care systems. It was never intended to be a solution to anything other than that.  It would appear it has done a good job of slowing the infection rate.  But we cannot stay quarantined until a vaccine is available.  That's estimated to be a year or more.   We now seem to have a few treatments that are working and saving some lives so maybe this is a good time to start testing the waters and see what happens.

I don't say this lightly as I am in that old people group that seems to be more at risk of death or permanent disability if I contract the virus.  But I'm an American too, and we cannot destroy the economy in the process of trying to avoid infection.  I don't want my posterity growing up in a third world country.

I'm in the above 60 and I am immune compromised.  I agree, leaving the economy shut down may cause more harm than the coronavirus.  The balance is in not overwhelming the hospitals.  Meanwhile, I'll be stuck at home either way.

[iacas]

26 minutes ago, billchao said:

patients recover

They also may not have fully recovered.

[billchao]

11 minutes ago, iacas said:

They also may not have fully recovered.

I think that was in the article I linked, or perhaps another one I read and didn't link. But yea, maybe their symptoms have subsided, but the virus still lingers. Kind of like how the incubation period is longer than the flu, recovery can be, too? Are they okay to be let back out in public, or are they still able to transmit the virus? We don't really seem to have the answer.

I know of someone who got this and is now "recovered." Doctors have cleared this person to return to work on Monday, but coworkers are afraid that they can still contract the virus from this person. Is it a legitimate concern? I have no idea.

[iacas]

Oy, Florida, c'mon man.

[David in FL]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

Oy, Florida, c'mon man.

Ok, that’s funny!

But I’ve played golf 3 times this week, so I’m in pretty good humor today.  😁