General COVID-19 Topic

[boogielicious]

39 minutes ago, imsys0042 said:

Sorry everyone, we lived in a failed timeline that was abandoned at this point.

Never thought I'd have to spread this as a PSA, but please don't (if you were considering it) take livestock de-wormer to fight Covid.

https://abc7chicago.com/ivermectin-for-covid-livestock-dewormer-mississippi-poison-control-what-is/10966065/

If you search in Facebook for Ivermectin and look at the public groups you will see that all is not going well with that crowd.   They are buying different doses and potencies and then don't know why they are dizzy, sore or have blurred vision.    One person took a dose meant for a 1750 lb horse and then wondered if he did something wrong.

People are literally buying this up at Tractor Supply and asking how much to take and can they give it to their kids.   Lest anyone say "well there are human versions of this as well", they are not using those.   They are trying to use meds for sheep, horses and cattle for getting rid of worms/pests and then posting questions like "has anyone had any bowel or bathroom issues after taking this?"

The real victims at this point are the comedy writers.   WTH do they come up with after something like this, that seems remotely funny?

So let me get this straight. These f-ing idiots won’t take a vaccine approved by the best medical and pharmaceutical experts in the world, but instead will take a drug meant to de-worm horses cuz some dipshit on-line guy said too?

This is natural selection at its best. Tell them to take cyanide instead. It’s faster and more effective at natural selection.

[Double Mocha Man]

4 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Tell them to take cyanide instead.

... or sip a bleach cocktail.

[boogielicious]

Just now, Double Mocha Man said:

... or sip a bleach cocktail.

They were already told to do that last year by the de-wormer guys.

[Double Mocha Man]

Just now, boogielicious said:

They were already told to do that last year by the de-wormer guys.

But it's a great cocktail for Un-Happy Hour...

[imsys0042]

Oh yeah, there are threads where people are going to leave their spouse because they are going to get vaxxed....stuff like that.   Ordering livestock de-wormer from  Chewy.com and then asking if they got the right kind.

One poster went on about whether or not you take the "paste" version orally or topically.   She ended with "do I use it in my mouth, or apply it to my armpit?"
 

Also, number of them are posting about the Nuremberg stuff, whether or not they can use that to avoid mandates to get vaxxed.   Meanwhile in reality, the Pfeizer vaccine was fully approved for 16+ and that prompted a number of people to move the goalposts with different excuses.   Unreal.

I'm studying for a certification for work, so I've been looking at it to break up my day.   The comments and what these people believe shock me.   I mean just shock me....  Makes the "Stop Conning yourself Thread" look like "You are 110% correct about your golfing ability"

 

[Darkfrog]

6 minutes ago, imsys0042 said:

vaccine was fully approved for 16+ and that prompted a number of people to move the goalposts

I think we knew this was going to happen.

I find the American distrust and politicization of science really disturbing.

[saevel25]

1 hour ago, imsys0042 said:

Sorry everyone, we lived in a failed timeline that was abandoned at this point.

Never thought I'd have to spread this as a PSA, but please don't (if you were considering it) take livestock de-wormer to fight Covid.

https://abc7chicago.com/ivermectin-for-covid-livestock-dewormer-mississippi-poison-control-what-is/10966065/

If you search in Facebook for Ivermectin and look at the public groups you will see that all is not going well with that crowd.   They are buying different doses and potencies and then don't know why they are dizzy, sore or have blurred vision.    One person took a dose meant for a 1750 lb horse and then wondered if he did something wrong.

People are literally buying this up at Tractor Supply and asking how much to take and can they give it to their kids.   Lest anyone say "well there are human versions of this as well", they are not using those.   They are trying to use meds for sheep, horses and cattle for getting rid of worms/pests and then posting questions like "has anyone had any bowel or bathroom issues after taking this?"

The real victims at this point are the comedy writers.   WTH do they come up with after something like this, that seems remotely funny?

You can thank people like Bret Weinstein, and other people in who worked near/in the medical profession or as scientist, who pushed vaccine doubt and touted Ivermectin as this panacea drug against COVID. 

They got to know there is a range of ignorant people out there who would do something like this. Sometimes, I don't even blame the people who went this route. If all the inputs into their brain, from what should be reliable sources, are that Ivermectin is this COVID wonder drug. What else should you expect from a certain percentage of people. It doesn't surprise me at all. I just feel sorry for them because to a certain degree, nothing would have changed their opinions outside of not having the failures of our leaders and the internet poisoning their minds with nonsense. 

11 minutes ago, imsys0042 said:

Also, number of them are posting about the Nuremberg stuff, whether or not they can use that to avoid mandates to get vaxxed.   Meanwhile in reality, the Pfeizer vaccine was fully approved for 16+ and that prompted a number of people to move the goalposts with different excuses.   Unreal.

Not really unreal. The loudest talkers are those who are truly anti-vaxxers. Its nothing more than cult mentality. Lets all drink from this red cup at the same time. 

Yea, moving the goalpost was to be expected. It's probably near the top in tactics used. 

A friend of mine refused to get vaccinated. He doesn't believe in any of the numbers. His basic response is F*** You, I'll do what I want. He's been a friend for a few years now, this is the first time he's really gotten on a crazy bandwagon. So, hopefully once this blows over he will calm down a bit. 99% of the time he's really chill. 

 

[Double Mocha Man]

1 hour ago, imsys0042 said:

...and that prompted a number of people to move the goalposts with different excuses.

"The vaccine hasn't been fully approved yet." was simply a placeholder for people to not get the shot but appear somewhat reasonable in their friends' eyes.  Now they've lost their go-to BS.  They still won't get vaccinated and their excuse will be even worse.

 

[Zippo]

On 8/16/2021 at 10:45 AM, Vinsk said:

Yes…as well as preventing variants. 

But, does it? It’s been my understanding that a breakthrough case can carry enough viral load to possibly pass the virus on - hence the masks for both vaccinated and unvaccinated. If that’s true is it not also possible for one to host a new variant?

[iacas]

Goalpost shifting commences… now.

[flopster]

On 8/19/2021 at 2:02 PM, imsys0042 said:

I got fired up today because my informed me, via one of her direct friends who does Covid contact tracing, that she is aware of people in our area who have Covid and are sending their kids to school.   School started Monday and there’s already 71 cases in the district (which is big, like 11-13 separate schools).

I can’t even begin to fully understand what that nurse is feeling.  Bunch of loads ruining their jobs and lives.   

I wonder if the authorities could get involved and maybe bring criminal negligence charges against people like this.

[Vinsk]

46 minutes ago, Zippo said:

But, does it? It’s been my understanding that a breakthrough case can carry enough viral load to possibly pass the virus on - hence the masks for both vaccinated and unvaccinated. If that’s true is it not also possible for one to host a new variant?

That’s just like asking, ‘ but does the vaccine prevent infection?’ Of course it can. We already know nothing is absolute. The chance of creating  variants is greatly reduced in vaccinated individuals just as chances of getting a large viral load in vaccinated people is. That’s the point. 🙂

[imsys0042]

50 minutes ago, flopster said:

I wonder if the authorities could get involved and maybe bring criminal negligence charges against people like this.

One of my neighbors had to go down to the school and pick his daughter up because now she has to quarantine for two weeks because of someone like this.  He knows people doing this and started naming names.  Someone else there pulled him aside, but honestly I’d let him do it if I was there.  People shouldn’t forget who willingly do stuff like this.  I don’t think there have been cases brought against people.  
 

And for all the time our school system had to prepare, the remote learning for quarantined kids is simply having a camera in the regular class and anyone at home is on mute. 

[Zippo]

30 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

That’s just like asking, ‘ but does the vaccine prevent infection?’ Of course it can. We already know nothing is absolute. The chance of creating  variants is greatly reduced in vaccinated individuals just as chances of getting a large viral load in vaccinated people is. That’s the point. 🙂

That’s why I never talk in absolutes. 😏

[Vinsk]

16 minutes ago, Zippo said:

That’s why I never talk in absolutes. 😏

Absolutely.

[saevel25]

19 minutes ago, Zippo said:

That’s why I never talk in absolutes. 😏

[flopster]

6 hours ago, imsys0042 said:

One of my neighbors had to go down to the school and pick his daughter up because now she has to quarantine for two weeks because of someone like this.  He knows people doing this and started naming names.  Someone else there pulled him aside, but honestly I’d let him do it if I was there.  People shouldn’t forget who willingly do stuff like this.  I don’t think there have been cases brought against people.  
 

And for all the time our school system had to prepare, the remote learning for quarantined kids is simply having a camera in the regular class and anyone at home is on mute. 

It's just so frustrating that people are willfully ignoring the information on this virus and in doing so puts other lives at risk, your neighbor actually showed restraint in my opinion I don't know how I would react if my daughter was too young for the vaccine and parents were sending kids to school who have been exposed to covid. I hope for everyones sake they don't cause an outbreak that may take a young life.

[StuM]

Forgive my ignorance for asking. Why are people taking this de-wormer? Is it because the do not trust the vaccine?  OK, you do not trust the vaccine that has helped millions with minimal side effects but you will take this? I guess I am over-estimating the intelligence of many people.

and sending known infected anywhere, not just to schools, is idiotic, careless and should be criminal.  

Edited August 24, 2021 by StuM
Added last paragraph