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6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.pn PGA Tour set to announce return of season in June with Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial, per report - CBSSports.com

We may be getting closer to seeing the best golfers in the world return to action on the courses

 

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Unless it's without spectators at all, really, that seems like it might be a little aggressive/early.

But hey, hopefully it's "safe" enough to do it then.

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Yukari Great Member

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June 11th?  Hopefully, it will have no fans or limited number of fans.

This social distancing will likely a good idea until vaccine is developed.

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9 minutes ago, Yukari said:

This social distancing will likely a good idea until vaccine is developed.

That's August or September, 2021 at the earliest.

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Germany, who seems to be handling this better than anywhere else in the Western world, announced that there will be no sporting events with fans until August 31. I assume the PGA Tour is planning no fans for a while, but I doubt any events with fans are happening in the next couple of months. 

Peter Kostis also made a good point on twitter (sorry, can't link right now) that you can't broadcast a tournament, even without fans, and practice social distancing. Even a tournament that is only players, caddies, support staff, and broadcasters is going to involve a couple of hundred, maybe even a thousand, people on the course.

All this is to say, even though mid-June is a long time from now, it still seems a bit ambitious to me. 

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5 minutes ago, DeadMan said:

Peter Kostis also made a good point on twitter (sorry, can't link right now) that you can't broadcast a tournament, even without fans, and practice social distancing. Even a tournament that is only players, caddies, support staff, and broadcasters is going to involve a couple of hundred, maybe even a thousand, people on the course.

The people can stay away from each other. The biggest breach will be that they'll be touching the same things, but they can certainly stay away from each other in almost any situation.

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We're all eager to see sports on TV, especially golf.  If it's at the expense of people's health, I can continue to play online golf, practice Erik's generous lessons and watch too much TV.  

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2 hours ago, iacas said:

The people can stay away from each other. The biggest breach will be that they'll be touching the same things, but they can certainly stay away from each other in almost any situation.

It seems theoretically possible, but it's going to be hard in practice. It will require the PGA Tour to think through things - not necessarily its strong suit - and the players to obey the guidelines. But players are still going to have to travel, stay in hotels, etc.

Edit to add - broadcasting and the infrastructure with that are probably the hardest part. You can keep commentators away, but you still need cameras, cables for the cables, people to put together the towers, etc. 

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9 hours ago, boogielicious said:
pga-tour-logo-june-2018.jpg

6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.pn PGA Tour set to announce return of season in June with Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial, per report - CBSSports.com

We may be getting closer to seeing the best golfers in the world return to action on the courses

 

This seems like a stretch to me, but what do I know? I'm just a burned out ex caddy.

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No fans for the first 4 events:

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6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.pn PGA Tour schedule: Season to return in June with no fans at first four events, six majors in 2020-21 - CBSSports.com

We appear to be getting closer to seeing the best golfers in the world return to action

No way they could possibly do this with fans, so that makes sense. 

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June 11th? Well, I just hope the virus is well contained by then. Galleries, or no galleries, there's probably going to be more folks involved than just the golfers. 

 

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34 minutes ago, Patch said:

June 11th? Well, I just hope the virus is well contained by then. Galleries, or no galleries, there's probably going to be more folks involved than just the golfers. 

For sure. But wouldn’t it be cool to see a really minimalist telecast? Like some of the vlogs? Just sounds of the pro, his caddie, the strike, background nature. Even then, there’d be a lot of support involved.

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5 hours ago, Patch said:

June 11th? Well, I just hope the virus is well contained by then. Galleries, or no galleries, there's probably going to be more folks involved than just the golfers. 

 

No way it will be contained. Once there’s a treatment for those who get it, life will go back to normal. But until then, it’s going to be a social distanced world with very few fans allowed into sporting events and athletes tested daily.

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8 hours ago, ChrisP said:

No way it will be contained. Once there’s a treatment for those who get it, life will go back to normal. But until then, it’s going to be a social distanced world with very few fans allowed into sporting events and athletes tested daily.

I don't think there really is a possibility of this either... I believe it's vaccine or nothing.  This type of virus there is no "treatment".  Just managing the symptoms and let your body try to fight it.  I think we're incredibly fortunate as it is that *most* people should make it through this ok.  Personally, doesn't make me any less terrified of getting it, even as someone who is young (mid 30's) and otherwise healthy.

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6 hours ago, Chris223 said:

This type of virus there is no "treatment".

You have a different definition of "treatment" than most people.

If you can reduce symptoms, lower the mortality rate, etc. then that's a "treatment" in my book. If, with "treatment," this becomes about the same as influenza, then…

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8 hours ago, Chris223 said:

This type of virus there is no "treatment". 

I think you’re confusing ‘treatment’ with ‘cure.’

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Heard about Brooks points about possibly more lost balls on a tv segment. I never thought a lost ball problem would happen with no fans but I've been curious to see it. Maybe 1 or 2 per weekend if the 3 minute search is enforced?

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