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camper6 Well Established Member

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What if you were playing in the club championship tournament finals and the match was halved at the end of 17 holes. You had the honor and hit your ball a modest two hundred fifty yards to the middle of the fairway, leaving a simple six iron to the pin. Your opponent then hits his ball, lofting it deep into the woods to the right of the fairway.

Being the golfing gentleman that you are, you help your opponent look for his ball. Just before the permitted five minute search period ends, your opponent says: "Go ahead and hit your second shot and if I don't find it in time, I'll concede the match." You hit your ball, landing it on the green, stopping about ten feet from the pin.

About the time your ball comes to rest, you hear your opponent exclaim from deep in the woods: "I found it!". The second sound you hear is a click, the sound of a club striking a ball and the ball comes sailing out of the woods and lands on the green, stopping no more than six inches from the hole.

Now the real "what if" in this story......


What if you had your opponent's ball in your pocket?

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irishmike27 Well Established Member

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In that situation, I think you'd have to continue to help searching until the time limit is up. Let your opponent then decide if he'll concede the match (or finish out with the impending LB penalty). The way the story reads, it certainly seems like not only was the ball located after the allowed search time, but that it was also "found" after being dropped from your opponent's pocket.

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Ernest Jones Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by camper6

What if you were playing in the club championship tournament finals and the match was halved at the end of 17 holes. You had the honor and hit your ball a modest two hundred fifty yards to the middle of the fairway, leaving a simple six iron to the pin. Your opponent then hits his ball, lofting it deep into the woods to the right of the fairway.

Being the golfing gentleman that you are, you help your opponent look for his ball. Just before the permitted five minute search period ends, your opponent says: "Go ahead and hit your second shot and if I don't find it in time, I'll concede the match." You hit your ball, landing it on the green, stopping about ten feet from the pin.

About the time your ball comes to rest, you hear your opponent exclaim from deep in the woods: "I found it!". The second sound you hear is a click, the sound of a club striking a ball and the ball comes sailing out of the woods and lands on the green, stopping no more than six inches from the hole.

Now the real "what if" in this story......

What if you had your opponent's ball in your pocket?


LOL, I believe you would have to "suck it up" and hope like hell that you make the putt. You might be able to get away with showing him the "pocket ball" at a later date in the bar or something but in the actual tourny setting I think you just have to accept that you've been "out-cheated".

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Sounds like you got what you deserved. But both of you suck.

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Ernest Jones Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by iacas

Sounds like you got what you deserved. But both of you suck.


Gotta agree here. You reap what you sow.

Hopefully this is a HYPOTHETICAL situation, right? Right?

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brocks Great Member

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I guess you've never seen "Goldfinger." A similar scenario happened there, and Bond was given the appropriate penalty under Rule 12 --- strapped down, with a giant laser beam heading for his junk.

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I'd say rules of Karma come into play and you both suffer the consequences.

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Originally Posted by camper6

Now the real "what if" in this story......

What if you had your opponent's ball in your pocket?


God, I hope I never have to play with scum like that.

Maybe the other guy saw you steal his ball and thought he'd teach you a lesson.

But...cheats never prosper and that kind of behaviour is reflected in every other aspect of your life.

What a jerk.

In the race of life, always back self-interest. At least you know it's trying.

 

 


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Now the real "what if" in this story......                 What if you had your opponent's ball in your pocket?

Both putts lip out.

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Originally Posted by brocks

I guess you've never seen "Goldfinger."

A similar scenario happened there, and Bond was given the appropriate penalty under Rule 12 --- strapped down, with a giant laser beam heading for his junk.



Actually it sounds like he has.

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Why in the hell would you pick up his ball and put it in your pocket? I certainly hope this is a joke thread.

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Wow, some people need to find their senses of humor...

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camper6 Well Established Member

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Originally Posted by zeg

Wow, some people need to find their senses of humor...

Imagine someone actually having to ask if this is a joke.

I told it to the pro and he is a pretty serious guy but laughed his head off.


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Originally Posted by brocks

I guess you've never seen "Goldfinger."

A similar scenario happened there, and Bond was given the appropriate penalty under Rule 12 --- strapped down, with a giant laser beam heading for his junk.

"Do you expect me to talk?"  "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee."

It also makes me think of the train poker scene in "The Sting" when they are first setting up Doyle Lonagan for their con, after Paul Newman's character leaves the room with all the money, Doyle and his crony have this exchange:

Floyd : Doyle, I KNOW I gave him four THREES. He had to make a SWITCH. We can't let him get away with that.
Doyle Lonnegan : What was I supposed to do - call him for cheating better than me, in front of the others?

And this is all assuming it's just a joke.  If this really happened ... wow, you are both a couple of giant a-holes.

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camper6 Well Established Member

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It never happened.  It's a joke and gets plenty of laughs.  It never entered my mind that it would be considered a request for a ruling.


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Originally Posted by iacas

Sounds like you got what you deserved. But both of you suck.

Sums the whole thread up very well....

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Kapanda Dedicated Member

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Wait, how did he find the ball if it was in your........

aaaahhhhhh!!! He cheated, just like you did!! I see!!!!


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