Tiger Woods Master Catch-All Discussion

[iacas]

2 hours ago, Groucho Valentine said:

Im still hazy on how these strokes gained stats work. I know its how players are primary rated now, but im still hazy on how it translate to actual performance when watching in real time. Hypothetically, you see a bunch of guys hit a fairway and green, make two putts for par. But some will have lower strokes gained than the others. Its not really intuitive without diving into a bunch of math. 

It’s simple. If guys get the same score on a home their total strokes gained is the same.

[nevets88]

This is so damning with faint praise, passive aggressive.

 

[rehmwa]

3 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

This is so damning with faint praise, passive aggressive.

Well, normally stephen smith resorts to "aggressive aggressive" so that's a move in a better direction than his normal "just be an asshole all the time" persona.  For this guy, it's pretty much gushing - he probably wants a signed glove.

Edited September 24, 2018 by rehmwa

[nevets88]

Not sure what the Yes +225, No -275 means.

 

[Hardspoon]

21 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

Not sure what the Yes +225, No -275 means.

That means if you bet on “yes”, you bet $100 to win $225.

For “no”, you bet $275 to win $100.

Roughly speaking, that implies a 30% chance of him winning a major. Which seems reasonable.

 

Edited September 24, 2018 by Hardspoon

[nevets88]

Hypothetically, Woods wins the 2019 or 2020 Masters, which is bigger, Nicklaus winning at 46 or Woods at 43/44?

[iacas]

3 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

Hypothetically, Woods wins the 2019 or 2020 Masters, which is bigger, Nicklaus winning at 46 or Woods at 43/44?

B. Easily.

[lastings]

Tiger winning at 43, 44, and 46.  

The 2022 masters coincedently being tigers 19th major. 

[3jacker]

12 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Hypothetically, Woods wins the 2019 or 2020 Masters, which is bigger, Nicklaus winning at 46 or Woods at 43/44?

A, easily.  It was the 18th major.  And it was at a later age.

[iacas]

2 minutes ago, 3jacker said:

A, easily.  It was the 18th major.  And it was at a later age.

After none of the stuff Tiger's gone through the last five years.

[nevets88]

The pied piper of golf. All this has happened before and will happen again.

 

[saevel25]

13 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Hypothetically, Woods wins the 2019 or 2020 Masters, which is bigger, Nicklaus winning at 46 or Woods at 43/44?

Woods at 43/44

Being so injured, he could hardly get out of bed each day. This is stuff of legends right now. 

I don't think it's even close.

26 minutes ago, 3jacker said:

A, easily.  It was the 18th major.  And it was at a later age.

Jack never had a spinal fusion. He never rebuilt his swing 4 times. He also didn't have this strong of a field to compete against.

Later age doesn't matter here. You are not considering the complexity of this situation that easily shows that what Tiger is doing dwarfs anything that Jack did after the age of 40.

 

[3jacker]

That's what makes Jack better.

He was a better athlete.  He never fell apart physically, mentally, emotionally.

He did have a hip thing.  But that came later I think.

[klineka]

2 minutes ago, 3jacker said:

That's what makes Jack better.

He was a better athlete.  He never fell apart physically, mentally, emotionally.

He did have a hip thing.  But that came later I think.

[Vinsk]

3 minutes ago, 3jacker said:

That's what makes Jack better.

He was a better athlete.  He never fell apart physically, mentally, emotionally.

He did have a hip thing.  But that came later I think.

LOL! Comical at best.

[3jacker]

Thanks. That was the intent.

What TW has overcome is something Jack probably never even had a bad dream about. If he dreams at all, which he probably doesn't, because why would he? It's not practical.

[Missouri Swede]

With his win this last weekend, what tournaments in this upcoming season does he now get into (that he otherwise wouldn't)?

My first thought was the Tournament of Champions in January.

He's got lifetime (IIRC) for the Masters, the Open Championship (until age 60), and the PGA Championship, so those aren't affected.

He gets into the 2019 US Open by being in (even without winning) the Tour Championship, so the win doesn't affect that.

Any others?

[iacas]

1 minute ago, Missouri Swede said:

With his win this last weekend, what tournaments in this upcoming season does he now get into (that he otherwise wouldn't)?

My first thought was the Tournament of Champions in January.

He's got lifetime (IIRC) for the Masters, the Open Championship (until age 60), and the PGA Championship, so those aren't affected.

He gets into the 2019 US Open by being in (even without winning) the Tour Championship, so the win doesn't affect that.

Just the U.S. Open, but he wouldn't have needed the win, as his OWGR would have gotten him in anyway.

Winning didn't get him into the U.S. Open, either: simply qualifying for the Tour Championship did:

• Players qualifying for the season-ending 2017 Tour Championship. (from the 2018 exemptions list)

So he didn't even need to play in it. Just qualifying for it got him the U.S. Open exemption.