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Have we discussed enough (or at all??) how Bernhard Langer, yes Bernhard Langer!!!, went birdie, birdie, par, birdie over the final four holes yesterday to finish at even par and tied for 8th place in the tournament?!?!?!?!

Pretty impressive!

Well, I've picked him in the contest and in my opinion, he really didn't come that close to my expectations...

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Boring?  BORING?  Mike & Mike, Mad Dog Radio, etc etc how could these guys even use the word?  Did these sportscasters even watch the tournament, or did they tune in for the last 3 holes and expec

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It's not the weather, though, as you may expect ... But rather, Phil Mickelson is just starting his practice round. ;)

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I'd like to make a suggestion to the Augusta people: Quickly write into your tournament by-laws a contingency tradition; if the son of a former winner wins the tournament, his dad gets to prese

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I think the real story of this years Masters was how many big names didn't make the cut.  Luke Donald, Sergio, Els, Phil, Charl, Webb, Zach Johnson, DJ, Keegan, Dufner, Reed to only name a few.  Looking at only the Top 10 you'd never guess this was a Major.

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Have we discussed enough (or at all??) how Bernhard Langer, yes Bernhard Langer!!!, went birdie, birdie, par, birdie over the final four holes yesterday to finish at even par and tied for 8th place in the tournament?!?!?!?!

Pretty impressive!

Really, really impressive.

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I think the real story of this years Masters was how many big names didn't make the cut.  Luke Donald, Sergio, Els, Phil, Charl, Webb, Zach Johnson, DJ, Keegan, Dufner, Reed to only name a few.  Looking at only the Top 10 you'd never guess this was a Major.

That's a good point. Bubba's win wasn't too surprising.  But you're right, the rest of the board was unexpected. It's been a strange year so far.

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There were 294 3-putts this week. That sounds like a lot to me, considering the smaller field. How many 3-putts does a regular PGA tour event usually get by the end of the week?

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There were 294 3-putts this week. That sounds like a lot to me, considering the smaller field. How many 3-putts does a regular PGA tour event usually get by the end of the week?

I was going to type something up, but @jamo 's post answers it just fine.

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Have we discussed enough (or at all??) how Bernhard Langer, yes Bernhard Langer!!!, went birdie, birdie, par, birdie over the final four holes yesterday to finish at even par and tied for 8th place in the tournament?!?!?!?!

Pretty impressive!


It reminded me of when Charl Schwartzel won the 2011 Masters - his round wasn't even really being covered by the broadcast crew who were watching the epic Rory meltdown and Charl going birdie/birdie/birdie/birdie to finish didn't make broadcast noise until 17 (as I recall it). The difference yesterday being Bubba never had a slip after the a bobble at 10.

Players play, tough players win!

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Anybody else think that if Rory would have Eagled #13, hell even got a birdie, then he could have made a serious charge?

He was charging hard but once the ball went into the water, you could tell he really thought he had a chance at posting a low score in the clubhouse.

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Boring telecast yesterday. I'm a fan of Johnny Miler and would have loved to hear his comments during the final round - what Spieth might be thinking, Bubba's drive on 13.   I think CBS's coverage is too tame - in fear of angering the Lords of Augusta. Surprised that one commentator even called the patrons "a crowd"......I think it was Jack Whitaker was chastised for using the term "mob" once when referring to the spectators.  Guess Miller wouldn't ever make it covering the Masters - too much controversy.

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Boring telecast yesterday. I'm a fan of Johnny Miler and would have loved to hear his comments during the final round - what Spieth might be thinking, Bubba's drive on 13.   I think CBS's coverage is too tame - in fear of angering the Lords of Augusta. Surprised that one commentator even called the patrons "a crowd"......I think it was Jack Whitaker was chastised for using the term "mob" once when referring to the spectators.  Guess Miller wouldn't ever make it covering the Masters - too much controversy.

Johnny Miller is a bit of a jerk...

He offers his opinions in a very condescending manner.  That wouldn't fit Augusta very well.

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Boring telecast yesterday. I'm a fan of Johnny Miler and would have loved to hear his comments during the final round - what Spieth might be thinking, Bubba's drive on 13.   I think CBS's coverage is too tame - in fear of angering the Lords of Augusta. Surprised that one commentator even called the patrons "a crowd"......I think it was Jack Whitaker was chastised for using the term "mob" once when referring to the spectators.  Guess Miller wouldn't ever make it covering the Masters - too much controversy.

Gary McCord angered the "Lords" of Augusta and look what happened...

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Gary McCord angered the "Lords" of Augusta and look what happened...

"Them greens are so fast it looks like Augusta National bikini waxed the greens!".

Love that quote, best one over.

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Boring telecast yesterday. I'm a fan of Johnny Miler and would have loved to hear his comments during the final round - what Spieth might be thinking, Bubba's drive on 13.   I think CBS's coverage is too tame - in fear of angering the Lords of Augusta. Surprised that one commentator even called the patrons "a crowd"......I think it was Jack Whitaker was chastised for using the term "mob" once when referring to the spectators.  Guess Miller wouldn't ever make it covering the Masters - too much controversy.

I have a funny feeling you'd find something to criticize about the announcers, no matter who was doing the coverage. ;-)

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@jamo 's post didn't answer my question. I'm just curious; not trying to make a point or anything.

I was referring to his last point to look at the scoring. It's not like they were reaching a bunch of par fours that they could three-putt and still not lose a stroke to par. i.e. If so many three-putts occurred, the scoring would have been much worse. It wasn't, despite penalties being rather high. Scoring was pretty typical, GIR was down slightly, so putting as a whole was average to [i]better than average .

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Sure it does. Look at the scoring. It's not like they were reaching a bunch of par fours that they could three-putt and still not lose a stroke to par. Scoring was pretty typical, GIR was down slightly, so putting as a whole was average to [i]better than average .

Unless I'm missing some hidden text, nowhere in his post does he state how many 3-putts the average PGA tour tournament gets. That's all I wanted to know. As I said, I'm not trying to prove anything I just want to know the statistic.

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Unless I'm missing some hidden text, nowhere in his post does he state how many 3-putts the average PGA tour tournament gets. That's all I wanted to know. As I said, I'm not trying to prove anything I just want to know the statistic.

I'm pointing out that you don't have to know that number. You can get a feel for it via GIR and raw scoring. And my stats above, too, about putts per hole.

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I'm pointing out that you don't have to know that number. You can get a feel for it via GIR and raw scoring. And my stats above, too, about putts per hole.

I agree. I think all the 3-putt stat means, if it is higher than normal, is that there are certain areas on the green that are much harder to putt from than other areas. But I still want to know what it is out if curiosity.

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