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  1. 1. You are given an invitation to colonize Mars. Would you go?

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My knees get weak looking out the window of tall buildings.  I don't think space flight is for me.

But I can totally understand why people would go for it.  If you think colonization has a viable future.

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Can we send all current politician's in the Senate, Congress and the White house and start over? :whistle:

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Can we send all current politician's in the Senate, Congress and the White house and start over?

Isn't there an international law preventing us from polluting outer space?

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Isn't there an international law preventing us from polluting outer space?

That's a good one, however I believe "Dilution is the Solution to Pollution".

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My answer is a definite no.

Also I do not think that this is colonization, when they are sending up a very small number of people  and they all know they will die there.

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My answer is a definite no.

Also I do not think that this is colonization, when they are sending up a very small number of people  and they all know they will die there.

If they even make it there. . .

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No golf courses on Mars. That would be a NO!

Edit: Although there a bunch of people that I would love to nominate to go. B-)

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No vote for me!

But I could nominate quite a few folks, mainly politicians and other barbarians, whom we could send and be better for it! O:)

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I voted yes. **** it, why not? Nothing like this will happen in my lifetime anyway, might as well sound enthusiastic about it. ;-)

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I voted yes. **** it, why not? Nothing like this will happen in my lifetime anyway, might as well sound enthusiastic about it. ;-)

That's what the volunteers think as well. It does sound cool, but there are lots of technical issues that have not been worked out yet. It is uncharted territory.

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If they had the internet back in the 1400s and someone started a thread if we'd be interested in sailing with Columbus, I'd have given out a massive "hell nawwwwwwww" in Spanish or Italian. The same applies here. God speed to those who go if and when they go, but I'm not the type for this kind of mission.

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I voted yes. **** it, why not? Nothing like this will happen in my lifetime anyway, might as well sound enthusiastic about it. ;-)

Because, eff that! That's why not! No way am I voluntarily moving to a place my body isn't made to withstand. That would be like asking "Who wants to go colonize the bottom of the ocean?" Or ... "Who wants to colonize the northeast part of the United states?"

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If they had the internet back in the 1400s and someone started a thread if we'd be interested in sailing with Columbus, I'd have given out a massive "hell nawwwwwwww" in Spanish or Italian. The same applies here. God speed to those who go if and when they go, but I'm not the type for this kind of mission.


Hardly.

You knew there was oxygen and fresh water on the other side of the world. And possibly even food. And trees to build with and earth to grow things in.

The same does not apply.

It is nothing at all like that.

In the race of life, always back self-interest. At least you know it's trying.

 

 


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Originally Posted by JetFan1983

If they had the internet back in the 1400s and someone started a thread if we'd be interested in sailing with Columbus, I'd have given out a massive "hell nawwwwwwww" in Spanish or Italian. The same applies here. God speed to those who go if and when they go, but I'm not the type for this kind of mission.

Hardly.

You knew there was oxygen and fresh water on the other side of the world. And possibly even food. And trees to build with and earth to grow things in.

The same does not apply.

It is nothing at all like that.


I should've said that Mars One was never going to work. We agree there. But a manned mission to Mars that could successfully bring the trained astronauts back in one piece would be pretty awesome and will probably happen one day.

I'd be pretty surprised if humanity was ever able to colonize it, but a few hundred years from now, who knows what humans will come up with.

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Can we send all current politician's in the Senate, Congress and the White house and start over?


If you add all politicians from all countries, I'm with you!!

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[QUOTE name="Shorty" url="/t/80257/would-you-leave-earth-to-colonize-mars/18#post_1107839"]   [QUOTE name="JetFan1983" url="/t/80257/would-you-leave-earth-to-colonize-mars/18#post_1107834"]   If they had the internet back in the 1400s and someone started a thread if we'd be interested in sailing with Columbus, I'd have given out a massive "hell nawwwwwwww" in Spanish or Italian. The same applies here. God speed to those who go if and when they go, but I'm not the type for this kind of mission.  [/QUOTE] Hardly. You knew there was oxygen and fresh water on the other side of the world. And possibly even food. And trees to build with and earth to grow things in. The same does not apply. It is nothing at all like that. [/QUOTE] I should've said that Mars One was never going to work. We agree there. But a manned mission to Mars that could successfully bring the trained astronauts back in one piece would be pretty awesome and will probably happen one day.  I'd be pretty surprised if humanity was ever able to colonize it, but a few hundred years from now, who knows what humans will come up with.

We would need to reengineer our bodies for the lower gravity, terraform the planets surface so the average temperature doesn't freeze CO2, figure out a way to grow plants, etc. It's way better to optimize the use of our current planet, and clean it up. Every $100,000 we spend on Mars is $1 here. Money will go a lot farther spending it here to fix our planet than sending corpses to the Martian surface.

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Originally Posted by jamo

I voted yes. **** it, why not? Nothing like this will happen in my lifetime anyway, might as well sound enthusiastic about it.

Because, eff that! That's why not! No way am I voluntarily moving to a place my body isn't made to withstand. That would be like asking "Who wants to go colonize the bottom of the ocean?" Or ...

"Who wants to colonize the northeast part of the United states?"

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

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Originally Posted by jamo

I voted yes. **** it, why not? Nothing like this will happen in my lifetime anyway, might as well sound enthusiastic about it.

Because, eff that! That's why not! No way am I voluntarily moving to a place my body isn't made to withstand. That would be like asking "Who wants to go colonize the bottom of the ocean?" Or ...

"Who wants to colonize the northeast part of the United states?"

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