In which sports can women equal men?

[billchao]

  iacas said:

Huh? C'mon @Lihu .

That's just what he tells himself as an excuse not to work out ;-)

[Lihu]

  billchao said:

[quote name="iacas" url="/t/81969/in-which-sports-can-women-equal-men/120#post_1189164"] Huh? C'mon @Lihu .

That's just what he tells himself as an excuse not to work out ;-)[/quote] No need, because I gain muscle mass very easily. :-P Seriously, though, at one point I could do splits and and other flexible stuff while able to bench 280 and other strong stuff, yet was about as graceful as a bull in a China shop even though I weighed less than 190. The way my cousin explained it to me is the way muscles fire. They literally fire different groups throughout the motion. The bigger the muscles, the jerker the motion. She hooked me up to some electrodes in a lab to observe my contractions. That was way cool. She did similar things to other people and animals.

[Vinsk]

  true said:

She did similar things to other people and animals.

[Lihu]

  Vinsk said:

[quote]l. She did similar things to other people and animals.

[turtleback]

  k-troop said:

As for standards, best info I've heard is that they were enforced across the board more strictly in this class than is usual due to the level of scrutiny on the "standards." This seems to be confirmed by the overall lower than average pass rate among male candidates.

I hope that is true.  Although I put very little faith in what the government tells us about issues like this.

  Lihu said:

She hooked me up to some electrodes in a lab to observe my contractions. That was way cool. She did similar things to other people and animals.

Is that what she told you she was doing with those electrodes?  Bless your heart.

[Lihu]

  turtleback said:

[QUOTE name="k-troop" url="/t/81969/in-which-sports-can-women-equal-men/108#post_1188922"]   [CONTENTEMBED=/t/81969/in-which-sports-can-women-equal-men/100_20#post_1188921 layout=inline] [/CONTENTEMBED] As for standards, best info I've heard is that they were enforced across the board more strictly in this class than is usual due to the level of scrutiny on the "standards." This seems to be confirmed by the overall lower than average pass rate among male candidates.[/QUOTE] I hope that is true.  Although I put very little faith in what the government tells us about issues like this. [QUOTE name="Lihu" url="/t/81969/in-which-sports-can-women-equal-men/126#post_1189197"]   [CONTENTEMBED=/t/81969/in-which-sports-can-women-equal-men/126#post_1189183 layout=inline] She hooked me up to some electrodes in a lab to observe my contractions. That was way cool. She did similar things to other people and animals.[/CONTENTEMBED] [/QUOTE] Is that what she told you she was doing with those electrodes?  Bless your heart. :whistle:

Hooked them up to data acquisition equipment of that time, not as bad as piercings and such. :-D

[k-troop]

  turtleback said:

I hope that is true.  Although I put very little faith in what the government tells us about issues like this.

There is what the "government" says, and what people you know, who happen to be in government, say.

[newtogolf]

  Lihu said:

No need, because I gain muscle mass very easily.

Seriously, though, at one point I could do splits and and other flexible stuff while able to bench 280 and other strong stuff, yet was about as graceful as a bull in a China shop even though I weighed less than 190. The way my cousin explained it to me is the way muscles fire. They literally fire different groups throughout the motion. The bigger the muscles, the jerker the motion. She hooked me up to some electrodes in a lab to observe my contractions. That was way cool. She did similar things to other people and animals.

Sorry @Lihu oing to use you as the model for the prototypical male.  Muscle mass has little to do with grace or smooth body movements.   Ever see Herschel Walker?

[Lihu]

  newtogolf said:

[QUOTE name="Lihu" url="/t/81969/in-which-sports-can-women-equal-men/120_30#post_1189197"] No need, because I gain muscle mass very easily. :-P Seriously, though, at one point I could do splits and and other flexible stuff while able to bench 280 and other strong stuff, yet was about as graceful as a bull in a China shop even though I weighed less than 190. The way my cousin explained it to me is the way muscles fire. They literally fire different groups throughout the motion. The bigger the muscles, the jerker the motion. She hooked me up to some electrodes in a lab to observe my contractions. That was way cool. She did similar things to other people and animals.[/QUOTE] Sorry @Lihu but we're not going to use you as the model for the prototypical male.  Muscle mass has little to do with grace or smooth body movements.   Ever see Herschel Walker?

Gosh, I hope not! My cousin was just offering a scientific experiment showing me why I could never be that graceful. . .

[turtleback]

  k-troop said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtleback

I hope that is true.  Although I put very little faith in what the government tells us about issues like this.

There is what the "government" says, and what people you know, who happen to be in government, say.

Yup there is.  But I don't know any of the people involved so I have only what the government says.  And, as I said, when it comes to defense of PC, I do not trust what the government says.

[Gator Hazard]

Has anyone mentioned billiards?  I think that besides the break shot (which is still very important) women need no more power or strength or testosterone then men do to be competitive.  I used to play a lot and new many women who were amazing no matter their sex.  I dated a girl who in my opinion could have gone pro, she was a bartender at a golf course I went too a few times the first times I tried playing golf about 12 years ago or so.  She got pulled into a conversation my two friends and I were having and all of a sudden would up discussing pool and she mentioned a few things.  Lo and behold I was lucky enough to procure a date with her at a nice pool hall/bar near my place and we went and played.  She whipped my butt but good.  She tanked a straight in shot on the three ball while we were playing 9 ball and later that evening at my place cuddled up on the couch I asked her why she tanked that shot of all shots.  She laughed and said "well I wanted you to feel good about yourself".  LOL!  Very kind of her after slapping me around the pool table in 8-ball for a few games before we switched to 9-ball where I was able to win a few against her.

[Lihu]

  Gator Hazard said:

Has anyone mentioned billiards?  I think that besides the break shot (which is still very important) women need no more power or strength or testosterone then men do to be competitive.  I used to play a lot and new many women who were amazing no matter their sex.  I dated a girl who in my opinion could have gone pro, she was a bartender at a golf course I went too a few times the first times I tried playing golf about 12 years ago or so.  She got pulled into a conversation my two friends and I were having and all of a sudden would up discussing pool and she mentioned a few things.  Lo and behold I was lucky enough to procure a date with her at a nice pool hall/bar near my place and we went and played.  She whipped my butt but good.  She tanked a straight in shot on the three ball while we were playing 9 ball and later that evening at my place cuddled up on the couch I asked her why she tanked that shot of all shots.  She laughed and said "well I wanted you to feel good about yourself".  LOL!  Very kind of her after slapping me around the pool table in 8-ball for a few games before we switched to 9-ball where I was able to win a few against her.

I kind of wondered about this too. There are a lot of really good lady players for sure.

[Vinsk]

  Gator Hazard said:

Has anyone mentioned billiards?  I think that besides the break shot (which is still very important) women need no more power or strength or testosterone then men do to be competitive.  I used to play a lot and new many women who were amazing no matter their sex.  I dated a girl who in my opinion could have gone pro, she was a bartender at a golf course I went too a few times the first times I tried playing golf about 12 years ago or so.  She got pulled into a conversation my two friends and I were having and all of a sudden would up discussing pool and she mentioned a few things.  Lo and behold I was lucky enough to procure a date with her at a nice pool hall/bar near my place and we went and played.  She whipped my butt but good.  She tanked a straight in shot on the three ball while we were playing 9 ball and later that evening at my place cuddled up on the couch I asked her why she tanked that shot of all shots.  She laughed and said "well I wanted you to feel good about yourself".  LOL!  Very kind of her after slapping me around the pool table in 8-ball for a few games before we switched to 9-ball where I was able to win a few against her.

Nor do they need more power,strength in putting yet..... Also, Billiards isn't really a sport, it's a game.

[Golfingdad]

  Vinsk said:

Nor do they need more power,strength in putting yet..... Also, Billiards isn't really a sport, it's a game.

The key word in the thread title, I believe, is "can." I get your point, and I agree that women DONT putt as well as men, but that doesn't mean that they CANT. No comment is regards to the sport/game argument. ;) Lets just say for this argument that if its on ESPN, then it qualifies. And that said, I thought of one that certainly qualifies ... The Spelling Bee!!! ;)

[Lihu]

Big wall free climbing. Lynn Hill was the first to free climb the Nose in Yosemite.

[turtleback]

  Gator Hazard said:

Has anyone mentioned billiards?  I think that besides the break shot (which is still very important) women need no more power or strength or testosterone then men do to be competitive.  I used to play a lot and new many women who were amazing no matter their sex.  I dated a girl who in my opinion could have gone pro, she was a bartender at a golf course I went too a few times the first times I tried playing golf about 12 years ago or so.  She got pulled into a conversation my two friends and I were having and all of a sudden would up discussing pool and she mentioned a few things.  Lo and behold I was lucky enough to procure a date with her at a nice pool hall/bar near my place and we went and played.  She whipped my butt but good.  She tanked a straight in shot on the three ball while we were playing 9 ball and later that evening at my place cuddled up on the couch I asked her why she tanked that shot of all shots.  She laughed and said "well I wanted you to feel good about yourself".  LOL!  Very kind of her after slapping me around the pool table in 8-ball for a few games before we switched to 9-ball where I was able to win a few against her.

If you really mean billiards, then no.  Therese Klompenhouwer is far and away the best female 3-cushion billiards player in the world and while she plays in some men's events she is nowhere near competitive with the real players.

In pool, I think Jeanette Lee may have competed in some men's events but I cannot see that she has ever won anything in them, while she completely dominated women's pool for more than a decade.

It would be hard to find more polar opposites to these 2 in the looks department.

[Gator Hazard]

Sorry ladies, I tried.  Guess the jury is in on women's place in sports.

[rehmwa]

  Vinsk said:

Nor do they need more power,strength in putting yet.....

Also, Billiards isn't really a sport, it's a game.

games:  billiards, car racing, bowling, golf, baseball, archery, shooting, etc, etc, etc

sports:  football, soccer, wrestling, volleyball, tennis, etc

I'd wonder if we'd find a couple in each catagory at some point.

Games - I think most any would be candidates if the right women would choose to try.

Sports - climbing is an obvious possibility, track and field events, speed events (skiing, sleds, etc)

even so, those are all activities I'd think are 'possible' just based on  physical considerations.  I just don't know if there is also a psychological aspect to consider too that might dominate