Dress Codes

[MrFlipper]

  On 8/9/2016 at 2:39 PM, DaveP043 said:

I've seen players going barefoot, and I can understand the attraction.  I think that when a course prohibits bare feet, its primarily from a liability standpoint.  A player who gets injured stepping on (you name it), and deciding to sue, could take a whole lot of the profits away.  No matter which way the suit ends, the club is out at least the attorney fees, and potentially a lot more.

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My first year in the game, shooting 100+ maybe 45 years ago, during the hot season in Colorado we played maybe 10 rounds a year barefoot and shirtless (egads). Nobody cared, it was good for your swing (the whole Sam Snead thing) and when the rough was inch long dry stubble it motivated you to hit the fairway. 

I agree that liability is part of it (a part of everything I guess), but also it just looks low life without shoes and/or shirt, it looks bad and scares people away. I haven't seen shirtless or barefoot players since those days, I have asked about playing barefoot a few times and the pro shop says no, it looks bad, can't do it. And folks are used to respecting the whole "no shirt, no shoes, no service" thing.

  On 8/10/2016 at 1:57 PM, Patch said:

That, and allowing any of the chemicals used in the up keep of the grass to soak into one's feet. 

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Don't think that's the case, not for a long time. Used to be that way, the story of Curtis Strange's dad getting cancer from licking golf balls, etc. But even as of 30 years ago, I had a close buddy who was a head pro, he said that environmental laws didn't allow those kinds of chemicals any more, no real risk at all, just don't drink non-potable irrigation water. I stand to be corrected if that is not the case, surely some supers or head pros can give an updated opinion.

[mcanadiens]

Here's something I found. We can get back in the whole is golf a sport thing, but what the hell.

You lot are real defensive about getting to show your white, pasty drumsticks in public. I've been having a bit of fun with some of you.

[MrFlipper]

  On 8/10/2016 at 4:31 PM, mcanadiens said:

Here's something I found. We can get back in the whole is golf a sport thing, but what the hell.

You lot are real defensive about getting to show your white, pasty drumsticks in public. I've been having a bit of fun with some of you.

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Ah yes, pale leg humor, lots of classics there.

1. Hey Casper, nice shorts.

2. Can't tell where your socks stop and your legs start.

3. What are those two white strings hanging out from under your shorts?

Nice thing about golf, lots of opportunities for insulting your buddies :)

[jsgolfer]

  On 8/10/2016 at 4:31 PM, mcanadiens said:

Here's something I found. We can get back in the whole is golf a sport thing, but what the hell.

You lot are real defensive about getting to show your white, pasty drumsticks in public. I've been having a bit of fun with some of you.

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Not sure about the others, but my legs aren't pasty white drumsticks, but I'm sure when I go to the golf course I don't check out other men's legs.  Is that an Ohio thing?   J/K    

[mcanadiens]

  On 8/10/2016 at 5:05 PM, jsgolfer said:

Not sure about the others, but my legs aren't pasty white drumsticks, but I'm sure when I go to the golf course I don't check out other men's legs.  Is that an Ohio thing?   J/K    

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We may just have more people in Ohio that ought to be wearing more clothes as opposed to less.

[boogielicious]

  On 8/10/2016 at 4:31 PM, mcanadiens said:

Here's something I found. We can get back in the whole is golf a sport thing, but what the hell.

You lot are real defensive about getting to show your white, pasty drumsticks in public. I've been having a bit of fun with some of you.

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My legs are too hairy to see the skin anyway. Plus, how else could I get the golfer's tan that shows my shockingly white feet with tan legs if I wore pants?

[Frank L]

  On 7/21/2016 at 3:33 PM, kuyarey said:

"DRESS CODES" exist in all sports... They are sometimes called "uniforms"...

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Exactly

[xcott]

I'm fine with more dress codes. The garbage people will wear in public these days is pretty appalling. 

 

There is no good reason to force the world to see your legs and feet if you're a man. 

If you wear flip flops in public you should be shamed.

[Fourputt]

  On 8/13/2016 at 5:03 PM, xcott said:

I'm fine with more dress codes. The garbage people will wear in public these days is pretty appalling. 

 

There is no good reason to force the world to see your legs and feet if you're a man. 

If you wear flip flops in public you should be shamed.

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Why don't you stick your nose a bit higher in the air.  You might accidentally look down and see my sandals.

[Patch]

  On 8/13/2016 at 5:03 PM, xcott said:

I'm fine with more dress codes. The garbage people will wear in public these days is pretty appalling. 

 

There is no good reason to force the world to see your legs and feet if you're a man. 

If you wear flip flops in public you should be shamed.

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What you consider appalling, I probably call comfortable. Especially when I shop at Wal-Mart. As for my flip flops, well, they are my other pair of shoes. Just too comfortable not to wear. All this said, you are entitled to your own opinion, which I respect. 

[jamo]

I really don't understand all the anti-shorts stuff. 

[Patch]

 

 

  On 8/10/2016 at 4:08 PM, MrFlipper said:

My first year in the game, shooting 100+ maybe 45 years ago, during the hot season in Colorado we played maybe 10 rounds a year barefoot and shirtless (egads). Nobody cared, it was good for your swing (the whole Sam Snead thing) and when the rough was inch long dry stubble it motivated you to hit the fairway. 

I agree that liability is part of it (a part of everything I guess), but also it just looks low life without shoes and/or shirt, it looks bad and scares people away. I haven't seen shirtless or barefoot players since those days, I have asked about playing barefoot a few times and the pro shop says no, it looks bad, can't do it. And folks are used to respecting the whole "no shirt, no shoes, no service" thing.

Don't think that's the case, not for a long time. Used to be that way, the story of Curtis Strange's dad getting cancer from licking golf balls, etc. But even as of 30 years ago, I had a close buddy who was a head pro, he said that environmental laws didn't allow those kinds of chemicals any more, no real risk at all, just don't drink non-potable irrigation water. I stand to be corrected if that is not the case, surely some supers or head pros can give an updated opinion.

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You may be right. However, I am pretty sure most golf grass keepers use an assortment of fertilizers, fungicides, herbicides, and insecticides on their lawns. Those "...cides..." are poisons. I would also think that walking bare foot on the greens would be worse than the fairways, or roughs. The grass is shorter on the greens. I have played on a lot of greens that were wet from watering cycles used on them. 

To each his own.......

[Fourputt]

When I was working as a starter we had a guy start off wearing flip flops.  As soon as he was out of sight, he kicked them off and went barefoot.  The ranger saw him on the 3rd hole and told him that the course did not allow players to go barefoot, and to put his footwear back on.  He did, but then took them off again as soon as the ranger was out of sight.  He must have thought erroneously that the ranger was stupid.  He didn't get to play but a single shot before the ranger was back.  He tried the same stunt again, must have thought it was a game or something.  The 3rd time the ranger told him to keep the flip flops on or he would be escorted from the course.  

Apparently he did keep them on after that, but when he finished he came up to my window and started yelling at me about this "Nazi ranger" who was on his ass all day, and on and on.  When I could get a word in, I told him that the head pro was in his office and to go see him if he had a complaint.  Of course the pro was well aware of all that had gone on, since he was brought into the loop before the 3rd warning.  I guess the guy realized that he was not going to get any satisfaction, and never confronted the pro.

[xcott]

  On 8/13/2016 at 7:52 PM, Patch said:

What you consider appalling, I probably call comfortable. Especially when I shop at Wal-Mart. As for my flip flops, well, they are my other pair of shoes. Just too comfortable not to wear. All this said, you are entitled to your own opinion, which I respect. 

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Yes, everyone prioritizes their personal comfort and desires over considerations of others. Unfortunatly. Strolling around in your boxers may also be even more comfortable, why not go that route?. I'm comfortable taking my shoes off and screaming during movies, so I should just do that, probably. Personal comfort is the only consideration. 

 

[newtogolf]

  On 8/13/2016 at 5:03 PM, xcott said:

I'm fine with more dress codes. The garbage people will wear in public these days is pretty appalling. 

 

There is no good reason to force the world to see your legs and feet if you're a man. 

If you wear flip flops in public you should be shamed.

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  On 8/14/2016 at 7:29 PM, xcott said:

Yes, everyone prioritizes their personal comfort and desires over considerations of others. Unfortunatly. Strolling around in your boxers may also be even more comfortable, why not go that route?. I'm comfortable taking my shoes off and screaming during movies, so I should just do that, probably. Personal comfort is the only consideration. 

 

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Seems like you have some major issues with guys legs and feet maybe you should seek some professional help to deal with it as I doubt shorts and flip flops are going to be banned in public anytime soon.    

[jsgolfer]

  On 8/14/2016 at 7:29 PM, xcott said:

Yes, everyone prioritizes their personal comfort and desires over considerations of others. Unfortunatly. Strolling around in your boxers may also be even more comfortable, why not go that route?. I'm comfortable taking my shoes off and screaming during movies, so I should just do that, probably. Personal comfort is the only consideration. 

 

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Dude, you must be a blast at a party.  Not sure screaming at a movie is the same thing but want to take your shoes off, knock yourself out.  In fact, the new theaters by me have recliners, you can take your shoes off and take a nap during the movie.  

As for boxers, go for it, wearing just underwear in public isn't acceptable yet but maybe you can start a new trend.  

Can't imagine how a man wearing shorts can ruin your day.  As @newtogolf said, maybe you need help to get over your phobia of guys wearing shorts and flip flops.

[WUTiger]

  On 8/14/2016 at 2:18 PM, Patch said:

You may be right. However, I am pretty sure most golf grass keepers use an assortment of fertilizers, fungicides, herbicides, and insecticides on their lawns. Those "...cides..." are poisons. I would also think that walking bare foot on the greens would be worse than the fairways, or roughs. ...

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Barefooted golfers on the chemically treated turf - this could be a liability issue for the course.

A couple of years back, a poster talked about being thrown off the course for playing barefooted.

[Sidehatch]

  On 8/14/2016 at 1:17 PM, jamo said:

I really don't understand all the anti-shorts stuff. 

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It's just another wave of metrosexual, consdescending attitudes that emanates from New York. With Ohio being New York's little sister for so long, it's not surprising to see them imitating the fashionistas of New York. Here's a good quote from an article about these foolish attitudes:

 

Wearing pants throughout a Florida summer is just as illogical as wearing shorts throughout a Boston winter. In very hot climates, shorts are a given. To refuse to wear shorts marks you as an eccentric, an outsider, or a fool.

Indeed, I never even encountered the idea that wearing shorts is somehow inappropriate for men until I moved up north, to New York City, where it is typical to hear narcissistic fashionistas making absolutist declarations of fictional "rules" based on glamour rather than function.