2018 British Open Championship at Carnoustie

[iacas]

 

[Buckeyebowman]

On 7/2/2018 at 8:10 PM, jamo said:

It seems so bizarre to even "threaten" to WD. Air France doesn't give a shit if he can't play a golf tournament. 

Does it really matter what Air France gives a shit about, or what Graeme McDowell gives a shit about! These are not Air France's clubs, they are McDowell's clubs! Therefore, he should give more of a shit about them than Air France!

Look, I'm more conservative than many on this forum, but that does not mean that I feel that businesses can do no wrong! We've all been treated badly by big business a time or two, so why can't you find this apropos!

If I'm going to play in a Major Championship, I want to play my clubs!

[jamo]

22 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Does it really matter what Air France gives a shit about, or what Graeme McDowell gives a shit about! These are not Air France's clubs, they are McDowell's clubs! Therefore, he should give more of a shit about them than Air France!

Look, I'm more conservative than many on this forum, but that does not mean that I feel that businesses can do no wrong! We've all been treated badly by big business a time or two, so why can't you find this apropos!

If I'm going to play in a Major Championship, I want to play my clubs!

Sure, but he could have threatened to boycott, or sue, or get his followers to boycott. Things Air France would care about. 

[ChrisP]

Barring a miracle, Trevor Immelmann gonna qualify for Open. Pretty cool story for a guy who pretty much gave up golf just earlier this year.

[ChrisP]

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article214921125.html

Interesting article about the setup. Sounds like the fact it's "baked out" is an understatement. Sneds drove it nearly 450 yards on the 18th, right up to the Barry Burn in front of the green. Course is going to play insanely shorter than the 7400 on the scorecard with the fairways being as hard as the cartpath. Could actually make the course play quite a bit easier given the rough is said to be pretty light there. Just avoid the bunkers in the fairway and you'll have wedges into most of the greens. Of course if the forecast pans out and the breeze is up, that changes things a bit.

Edited July 15, 2018 by ChrisP

[Hardspoon]

3 hours ago, ChrisP said:

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article214921125.html

Interesting article about the setup. Sounds like the fact it's "baked out" is an understatement. Sneds drove it nearly 450 yards on the 18th, right up to the Barry Burn in front of the green. Course is going to play insanely shorter than the 7400 on the scorecard with the fairways being as hard as the cartpath. Could actually make the course play quite a bit easier given the rough is said to be pretty light there. Just avoid the bunkers in the fairway and you'll have wedges into most of the greens. Of course if the forecast pans out and the breeze is up, that changes things a bit.

I think it's going to be fun to watch, just because it's so different.

I do feel like luck will be a bigger factor with that much roll-out, which is a good and a bad thing.

[Shindig]

John Daly out, Keegan Bradley in. https://www.pgatour.com/news/2018/07/15/john-daly-withdraw-open-championship-british.html

[ChrisP]

1 hour ago, Hardspoon said:

I think it's going to be fun to watch, just because it's so different.

I do feel like luck will be a bigger factor with that much roll-out, which is a good and a bad thing.

Agree with luck. It's going to be interesting with the bunkers to see if guys have danger in their souls to take them on and risk avoiding them to get 75 yards of more rollout. I wish there was more rough to make the risk/reward of hitting drivers more of an issue, but it doesn't look like much is there. That's the difference between this dry setup and Muirfield 2013 is Muirfield still had the thick rough to go with the extremely hard and brown fairways.

But I like the forecast that is calling for some wind all 4 days. Not gale force, but enough to be an issue, similar to what we saw at Shinnecock.

Edited July 16, 2018 by ChrisP

[Wally Fairway]

Pairings and tee times posted
https://www.theopen.com/TeeTimes#!/R1

[DeadMan]

Really good oral history of Van de Velde's collapse in 1999: https://www.golfchannel.com/article/ryan-lavner/carnoustie-99-oral-history-18-and-beyond

[Shindig]

I predict a huge crowd watching Russell Knox on day one.

[amished]

Kevin Na apparently put one of the pages from the yardage book out on Snapchat.  If the fairways are so burnt, I would be scared to hit too much club as I can imagine rolling into a lot of crap.

[ChrisP]

Forecast looking more and more like wind is going to be a big factor this week. Three of the four days are calling for gusts up to 20mph.

[Chris223]

1 hour ago, amished said:

Kevin Na apparently put one of the pages from the yardage book out on Snapchat.  If the fairways are so burnt, I would be scared to hit too much club as I can imagine rolling into a lot of crap.

Looks like hieroglyphics to me 😂

[nevets88]

3 hours ago, DeadMan said:

Really good oral history of Van de Velde's collapse in 1999: https://www.golfchannel.com/article/ryan-lavner/carnoustie-99-oral-history-18-and-beyond

One of things that I remember outright is Curtis Strange calling him stupid, I mean, yeah, it was a bad decision, but don't have to pile on.

 

I'd recognize this swing anywhere, the body shape has been all over the place, but the swing has quite the unique fingerprint. Dufner lost weight, put it back on. Didn't Carl Petterson (spelling) too?

 

 

[amished]

1 hour ago, Chris223 said:

Looks like hieroglyphics to me 😂

Simply put, red numbers are from a specified tee off location that can obviously be varied from day to day.  Black numbers are to the (front/center?) of the green.  You can see some of the contours in the fairway, where balls would roll down from at certain locations.  Landing the ball on one of those slopes will definitely make for fun watching if not fun playing....  I especially like the visual picture at the bottom of the page so you can better visualize shot lines from the teebox.

[nevets88]

3 hours ago, amished said:

Kevin Na apparently put one of the pages from the yardage book out on Snapchat.  If the fairways are so burnt, I would be scared to hit too much club as I can imagine rolling into a lot of crap.

That looks like a screencap of Instagram Stories, I tried to find this video but unfortunately more than 24 hours has gone by so it was zapped from the ether but someone out there probably has it, all I've got is this:

 

[amished]

Found on Reddit, but here's a link to the full StrokeSaver yardage aid for Carnoustie.  Not quite as detailed as the Kevin Na book (easily could've been Instagram instead of Snapchat, stories on them look similar to me since I don't use them often), but still cool.