Are you a real golfer?

I don't even carry a 4i so I guess Im just cotton headed ninny muggin.

Real golfers, imho, are the professionals who make money actually playing golf. Me, I'm a  (above?) average hacker at best, who plays the game, by the rules, just for the fun of it.

I'm just a hacker.

By that definition, I may never even sniff real golfer status....

Thanks for all of your feedback. As pleasant as it is to get positive feedback, I can of course learn a lot more from videos with mainly negative feedback. I am a student of Marshall Rosenberg and his nonviolent communication, so I try to hear the feeling and needs behind every evaluation. The need I hear here is: "I want to be seen in my beauty as a golfer and not in my inabilities. I want to be seen as I am and stay unmolested by judgements.“
I also acknowledge the fact that this game is extremely difficult and maybe no one needs a reminder that he or she will probably never master it. Of course I know that I too will never master it, although I’ve been trying hard for 30 years.

I just added a warning to the video:

Of course it is open to dispute whether this video is funny, but I thought it was at least obvious that it was meant to be funny when I said: "But we also need a more, immature definition for philistine rough customers like me."
But apparently I was mistaken. I am now considering to delete the video since I have learned my lesson and don’t see a need to cause further discomfort among future viewers. I am also aware that the warning can’t save the video from being perceived as offensive.

I think we agree that a draw needs a combination of a slightly open club face in relation to the target and a club head that is moving further to the right so that the face is slightly closed in relation to the path of the club head.

Yes, I agree with the ceteris paribus addition. But in reality an out to in swing is often accompanied by a scooping motion (hands behind ball at impact or at least not in front) and an in to out path is often accompanied by punching motion (hands quite a bit in front of the ball). In this case the second golfer will hit the ball higher than the first one.

No you don’t need to hinge your wrists late to hit a draw or to get your hands ahead at impact. But I would say: Hands ahead helps to make the draw more playable, since the necessary path for the draw moves the bottom of the swing back and the leaning shaft will will move it forward again.

The question whether it is helpful to hinge your wrists very little in the backswing and therefore late in the downswing is a very controversial issue. I will produce a whole video on that topic to have a better foundation for a discussion that will surely be very controversial as well. But let me just postpone that a little.

Cheers, Oliver

Actually, I think the OP did a pretty good job defining. "real golfer" in the opening. Someone who plays by the rules and respects the game, the course, and other players. That about covers it for me. I know real golfers that can't break 100, and can think of at least 1 very low single-digit player that I consider to be an embarrassment to the game....

Oliver H,

You're entitled to your opinions. Next week, maybe you can tell us what it takes to be a Real Narcissist. You certainly have that down pat.

What a great way to enter the sand trap, I'm glad you could join the rest of us in here. I thought it was a veru entertaining video actually! [quote name="WUTiger" url="/t/78479/are-you-a-real-golfer/10_10#post_1082210"]Oliver H, You're entitled to your opinions. Next week, maybe you can tell us what it takes to be a Real Narcissist. You certainly have that down pat. [/quote] I think this comment is surprising coming from someone who is a veteran in the sand trap, give the guy a break, or make a video explaining what a real golfer is. Either way I think your comment is a bit out in right field. Very disappointing.

I tapped out after 4:27. Your first video was far better.

I'm a real golfer because I can pitch 4 balls with one swing.

I enjoyed the video.  Disagree with the idea though.  Completely agree with @David in FL that you defined "Real Golfer" quite beautifully with your opening.

Another thing I loved was your "swing" when you were demonstrating the "Mishits" stage.  That was classic.

I do have a problem with one thing you said though:  At the 2:53 mark you mention "trapped draws," which, by itself, makes me cringe, but you add onto that by saying "which means shots with ball-turf contact."  That makes no sense.  The only way to make the ball contact the turf without actually topping it is to have your hands so far forward that you have a negative dynamic loft.  That is never producing a good shot.

The whole fascination with that phrase bothers me.  It makes no sense whatsoever.  Is it just because Johnny Miller likes to say it?  I really wish somebody would tell him to stop saying it.