Will Jordan Spieth Come Back?

[Sandy Divot]

Hopefully, he can put four good rounds together,

[iacas]

 

[MiuraMan]

I really hope I don't jinx Jordan, but here are some other numbers.

Last win: 1244 days

Last top 10: 237 days

last top 5: 629 days

[jmanbooyaa]

I don’t think Spieth needs to win, but cannot go out and shoot a horrible round. Must stay under par for the final round. If someone plays better, it is what it is that is golf. 

[iacas]

9 hours ago, MiuraMan said:

last top 5: 629 days

He still got that one.

[pulledabill]

Media hurt him by saying that he is back.Never been a fan as I personally dont like the way he carries himself on the course but I almost felt bad for him. Really felt more bad fir Hahn but its all part of the learning curve. 

[iacas]

11 minutes ago, pulledabill said:

Media hurt him by saying that he is back.Never been a fan as I personally dont like the way he carries himself on the course but I almost felt bad for him. Really felt more bad fir Hahn but its all part of the learning curve. 

What don’t you like about “how he carries himself”?

[boogielicious]

He seemed to get the jitters back on Sunday.  He was really twitchy at setup again.

[DeadMan]

I feel like this weekend was a Spiethian Rorschach test. He led the field in SG: Approach, and when he was contending in majors and winning, he was a consistently great iron player. That's a good sign. His putter was hot and cold, but that feels normal to me with him (or anyone, for that matter).

On the other hand, he was terrible off the tee. He's never been great off the tee, but he will need to be better off the tee to win in the future. There are definitely some courses where he'll be dead if he sprays it like he did this weekend. On the other hand, there's one fairly important course where you can spray it and still win (Augusta)...

Personally, I'm slightly encouraged by what he did, but I'm not sure he's turned the corner. He has to be able to keep it in play on holes like 15 and 17 off the tee. 

[iacas]

1 hour ago, DeadMan said:

He led the field in SG: Approach

Some of that is smoke and mirrors.

When we were consulting, we saw a few bits of data like this (I’m going to slightly inflate some of these numbers to make the point):

Imagine a par four where the scoring average is 4.0. Spieth might hit a drive into the “other” here, from where the expected score is 4.2, thus LOSING 1.2 strokes off the tee. But when he arrives at his ball, he’s in some trampled down stuff with a wide enough gap between the trees that he doesn’t have to pitch out sideways or take a penalty stroke or anything. So he hits a decent shot to 33’ on the green, thus shaving those 1.2 strokes off as the average from there is 2.0 strokes (he reduced his expected strokes to hole out from 4.2 to 2.0 with one stroke, hence, +1.2).

Thus, his driver numbers are deflated sometimes, and his approach shot gains are inflated sometimes.

[pulledabill]

3 hours ago, iacas said:

What don’t you like about “how he carries himself”?

Complains about courses, blames his caddy,  sniveling  about bad shots,  panics, and seems to take no responsibility.  Just my impression is all. Maybe he is a fine young man, just not my cup of tea.

He had the golf world in his hands and I feel losing it haunts him. I have no idea so just my observation. 

He is a walking business, and he is a business I choose not to support. 

[klineka]

11 minutes ago, pulledabill said:

Complains about courses, blames his caddy,  sniveling  about bad shots,  panics, and seems to take no responsibility.  Just my impression is all. Maybe he is a fine young man, just not my cup of tea.

Who are your favorite tour players? Because pretty much every tour player has done/said multiple of those things you listed at some point in their careers.

[iacas]

19 minutes ago, pulledabill said:

Complains about courses, blames his caddy,  sniveling  about bad shots,  panics, and seems to take no responsibility.  Just my impression is all. Maybe he is a fine young man, just not my cup of tea.

He had the golf world in his hands and I feel losing it haunts him. I have no idea so just my observation. 

He is a walking business, and he is a business I choose not to support. 

Okay. I get it. Was just curious. 🙂

Please add an avatar, @pulledabill, when you get a chance.

[colin007]

I will be deliciously tickled if he can barf all over himself in a final round again tomorrow

[Chris223]

On 2/8/2021 at 2:20 PM, pulledabill said:

Complains about courses, blames his caddy,  sniveling  about bad shots,  panics, and seems to take no responsibility.  Just my impression is all. Maybe he is a fine young man, just not my cup of tea.

He had the golf world in his hands and I feel losing it haunts him. I have no idea so just my observation. 

He is a walking business, and he is a business I choose not to support. 

You just described nearly every player who has, at any point in their career, been a consistent top finisher for a period of time...

[DewSweeper09]

Glad to see Jordan play well.

[jmanbooyaa]

Back to back weeks. I would say trending in the right direction. Time will tell. 

[Vinsk]

1 hour ago, jmanbooyaa said:

Back to back weeks. I would say trending in the right direction. Time will tell. 

I don’t know the stats but I’m not sure it was necessarily good golf. He certainly placed better than he has and he did much better on his last two weekend rounds than he has for quite some time. But damn....he’s not gonna keep going with his awful tee shots. I felt like he was constantly scrambling. Bunker, rough, bunker,  rough damn near every hole. He can’t rely on 30’ putts and chip ins or hole outs for eagles on par 4’s.