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Will Jordan Spieth Come Back?

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24 minutes ago, Yukari said:

IMHO, when he was hot, it was his putter.  Seemed like he would make anything he looked at from 10' and beyond.  Close ones, not so much - just average.

Unless he can get that flat stick working again, I doubt he will be what he was.  

This is incorrect. Spieth is doing just as fine with the putter. Check his strokes gained. His ballstriking has dropped a lot, in particular his approach play. He’s always been erratic off the tee, but his approach play isn’t giving him the same looks he capitalized on in his glory days. 

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1 hour ago, Vinsk said:

It’s not  so much I’m blaming Cameron. I’m simply saying he’s not the solution.

You don't know that. 🙂

1 hour ago, Vinsk said:

And if he’s telling JS the right stuff and three years of hacking persists then Cameron should tell him to go elsewhere. 

Humans aren't ideal.

47 minutes ago, Yukari said:

IMHO, when he was hot, it was his putter.

Not at all accurate. These things don't have to be opinions these days. You can look up the actual stats. His full swing is bad right now. He's missing everywhere.

39 minutes ago, woodzie264 said:

Maybe they’ve already been down that road, I don’t know. But I see both of you as being correct...if that’s possible

They have.

What people are failing to get is that perhaps:

  • Jordan played way above his level for awhile.
  • The expectations that he remain at that level cause a whole ton of stress.
  • He's not good at handling stress and at least playing to a normal level.

Maybe he is at his typical level now, and the pressure to play above his head again keeps him below his level.

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I'm trying to find someone comparable to Jordan Spieth's career to this point (hot as the sun and then struggling). David Duvall? Johnny Miller?

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Just now, iacas said:What people are failing to get is that perhaps:
  • Jordan played way above his level for awhile.
  • The expectations that he remain at that level cause a whole ton of stress.
  • He's not good at handling stress and at least playing to a normal level.

Maybe he is at his typical level now, and the pressure to play above his head again keeps him below his level.

That’s a great point. 

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I agree with what you're saying.  But...

46 minutes ago, iacas said:

and the pressure to play above his head again keeps him below his level.

I thought the mental game was overrated.  🙂 

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12 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

I thought the mental game was overrated.  🙂 

It is. What in anything that I said runs counter to that? We're talking about ONE person.

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1 hour ago, colin007 said:

Maybe his range swing isn't translating to the course? 

Y'all saw that same thing happening with Tiger, too, for a year or so.

Or longer.

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Here's one theory:  The human body replaces all its cells over 7 to 10 years.  Somehow as Jordan Spieth was replacing his cells some of Vinsk's cells got mixed in.  He is now Jordan Spinsk.

Another theory:  we all have good days and bad days on the course. Jordan is having good decades and bad decades. Like us, he may never get back to the good side of the equation.

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13 hours ago, Bucki1968 said:

I'm trying to find someone comparable to Jordan Spieth's career to this point (hot as the sun and then struggling). David Duvall? Johnny Miller?

Duvals issues were injury though, Jordan hasn’t had any of those.  I’d say more like Ian Baker Finch... just not quite a decline to that degree

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13 hours ago, iacas said:

You don't know that. 🙂

Well true, but we also can’t just say working with somebody new is out of the question.  

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2015 was his best year and the $12M he made on tour was peanuts to the Under Armor deal he inked along with other endorsements that year. You can’t discount what that kind of lifestyle change could do to a super young man.

have any of these other youngsters gone so far so fast or are they still hungry to get to where he was in 2015?

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24 minutes ago, iacas said:

Ditch Cameron? How about his wife? 😉

Lol! That’s pretty solid. 

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19 minutes ago, Carl3 said:

2015 was his best year and the $12M he made on tour was peanuts to the Under Armor deal he inked along with other endorsements that year. You can’t discount what that kind of lifestyle change could do to a super young man.

He played better in 2017, though.

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40 minutes ago, jmanbooyaa said:

He needs to shave his head and grow a beard. Andre Agassi in the 90’s. Got his game back and than some. 

I don’t think JS could grow a beard if he used fertilizer.....

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