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Just saw below about changes to college players entering the PGAT.  I do not know much about the current system and was curious if this may be related to trying to keep the young players from going to LIV.  Thoughts?

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On 8/30/2022 at 12:31 PM, Sandy Lie said:

Disagree.

Gas stations live on the money their business generates.

LIV lives on blood money.

If you can't understand that difference . . . .

But then again, what the hell do I know?

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22 hours ago, Sandy Lie said:

Relax!

Code for, "I know I've lost the argument so I'm going to make believe you've lost your cool.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

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5 hours ago, iacas said:

Yes, we are straying too far from the topic.

For the record or whatever, I believe that someone who aspires to be a PGA Professional in any capacity has a love for the game. I’m dumbfounded as to why a young aspiring player who puts in the work to get to the Tour would throw it all away for LIV. Kids grow up wanting to be the next guy in most sports be it golf, baseball, football, hockey and so on. The dream for these kids is to win the US Open, the World Series, etc. To be able to have their name on the Trophy is what it’s all about. Unfortunately not all PGA players will reach their goals. Lee Trevino I think I remember said there’s to much money on the Tour and some players want to just punch the clock and make cuts to keep their card and have a great career.  Phil, we know his records, one of the best. To me he became Shoeless Joe Jackson or Pete Rose. Got lost in the pursuit of money.  I’m sure there are other reasons. The other players are wanting that late career check for various reasons. Some I don’t understand at all! 

I guess we will wait and see how this unfolds. 


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1 hour ago, Sandy Lie said:

For the record or whatever, I believe that someone who aspires to be a PGA Professional in any capacity has a love for the game. I’m dumbfounded as to why a young aspiring player who puts in the work to get to the Tour would throw it all away for LIV. Kids grow up wanting to be the next guy in most sports be it golf, baseball, football, hockey and so on. The dream for these kids is to win the US Open, the World Series, etc. To be able to have their name on the Trophy is what it’s all about. Unfortunately not all PGA players will reach their goals. Lee Trevino I think I remember said there’s to much money on the Tour and some players want to just punch the clock and make cuts to keep their card and have a great career.  Phil, we know his records, one of the best. To me he became Shoeless Joe Jackson or Pete Rose. Got lost in the pursuit of money.  I’m sure there are other reasons. The other players are wanting that late career check for various reasons. Some I don’t understand at all! 

I guess we will wait and see how this unfolds. 

  • I wish people would stop saying "PGA" when they mean "PGA Tour." Especially when they say "PGA Professional."
  • Plenty of PGA Tour players treat it as a job. Cam Tringale won the most money on the PGA Tour without ever getting a win. It was a job for CHIII. Winning trophies and competing for legacy is a privilege few can afford. Joel Dahmen has said he plays for the money, and if it wasn't for that, he'd be doing something else.

So… yeah.

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Wahhhh wahhhh wahhhh wahhhh.

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British Open champion Cameron Smith said on Wednesday he felt it was unfair that those who joined LIV Golf are not receiving world ranking points and hopes that changes before his exemption into golf's four...
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6 minutes ago, iacas said:

Wha wha wha wha wha.

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British Open champion Cameron Smith said on Wednesday he felt it was unfair that those who joined LIV Golf are not receiving world ranking points and hopes that changes before his exemption into golf's four...

They just can't help themselves. Guaranteed money, no cuts, three day tournaments, all the perks and ass-kissing they could ever dream of -- and they still find something to complain about. 

You're getting paid over a hundred million dollars to tee it up, man. Shut the f*** up. 

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25 minutes ago, jbishop15 said:

They just can't help themselves. Guaranteed money, no cuts, three day tournaments, all the perks and ass-kissing they could ever dream of -- and they still find something to complain about. 

You're getting paid over a hundred million dollars to tee it up, man. Shut the f*** up. 

Cake and eat it too syndrome.

 

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While anyone leaving for LIV is pretty much off my radar for the rest of their career, I at least have to respect Harold Varner for being the first guy to be legitimately honest about why he left.  Spoiler - its for the money, and he owned it.

 

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6 minutes ago, Friz said:

While anyone leaving for LIV is pretty much off my radar for the rest of their career, I at least have to respect Harold Varner for being the first guy to be legitimately honest about why he left.  Spoiler - its for the money, and he owned it.

Then he complained about all the "hate" he was feeling from people the next day.

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I also saw on Twitter that his LIV press conference has him whining about not going home, not having enough time for friends and family.   He's missed weddings...   STFU!   He's already so rich he can go home anytime he wants and miss something, not to mention it's not like he works a regular job and gets 2-4 weeks off a year and has to budget.

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It’s a rare thing for me to post something about Gary Player I agree with. 

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14 minutes ago, imsys0042 said:

I also saw on Twitter that his LIV press conference has him whining about not going home, not having enough time for friends and family.   He's missed weddings...   STFU!   He's already so rich he can go home anytime he wants and miss something, not to mention it's not like he works a regular job and gets 2-4 weeks off a year and has to budget.

I would think a lot of the reason he hasn't gone home is that Australia has had strict entry requirements for a lot of the pandemic. I think you had to spend 2 weeks in quarantine upon entering, even if you were vaccinated, until recently. But that really doesn't have much to do with LIV v. PGA.

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11 minutes ago, imsys0042 said:

I also saw on Twitter that his LIV press conference has him whining about not going home, not having enough time for friends and family.   He's missed weddings...   STFU!   He's already so rich he can go home anytime he wants and miss something, not to mention it's not like he works a regular job and gets 2-4 weeks off a year and has to budget.

I have to agree with you on this note. I always cringe just a bit when athletes from any sport complain about the hours they have to put in. I get it, you worked hard to get where you are. But what you do for a living a lot of us do for vacation. And there are plenty of folks putting in tons of hours and not getting to do so in beautiful places, and not earning anywhere near the amount of dollars. It's called life. 

We've all missed things because of our careers. Again, it's called life. 

I too appreciate HV3 coming out and admitting he did it for the money. It wouldn't have been my choice, but at least he didn't say "To Grow the Game". 🤮

BTW - He should not have been surprised by the hate. In today's world? Where everyone has a voice? Honestly, what did he expect? 

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2 hours ago, iacas said:

Wha wha wha wha wha.

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British Open champion Cameron Smith said on Wednesday he felt it was unfair that those who joined LIV Golf are not receiving world ranking points and hopes that changes before his exemption into golf's four...

I wonder if this is part of a strategy to say PGAT is a Monopoly since they are using their influence to prevent LIV players from getting OWGR points which then impacts their ability to play in some events that provide eligibility at least in part on OWGR Points.  I realized that PGAT is only one of several founding members of OWGR and one of many eligible tours so it may not be a strong argument, but it may be part of a larger strategy in the court case to show their influence in the market and ability to cut off access to some events for LIV Players.

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How can Liv players expect world ranking points if they are guaranteed to play 54 holes and 54 holes only? 

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1 hour ago, phillyk said:

It’s a rare thing for me to post something about Gary Player I agree with. 

Gary is literally sponsored by Golf Saudi, so…

26 minutes ago, StuM said:

I wonder if this is part of a strategy to say PGAT is a Monopoly since they are using their influence to prevent LIV players from getting OWGR points which then impacts their ability to play in some events that provide eligibility at least in part on OWGR Points.  I realized that PGAT is only one of several founding members of OWGR and one of many eligible tours so it may not be a strong argument, but it may be part of a larger strategy in the court case to show their influence in the market and ability to cut off access to some events for LIV Players.

Thing is, from what I understand, OWGR points have a one-year waiting period anyway, during which time they have to demonstrate that they can meet conditions. You can't just say "Hey, we're having a tournament, give us points" from what I understand.

5 minutes ago, jmanbooyaa said:

How can Liv players expect world ranking points if they are guaranteed to play 54 holes and 54 holes only? 

OWGR points are available for many 54-hole events.

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The one bit of the whole LIV experience that I didn't particularly consider is how they decide who competes in these events and who doesn't. 

From what I read, the recent signings have meant that an entire team of Japanese players just got scratched from the Boston event. They were previously called Torque GC.  Now it is a team captained by Niemann.

What a strange bit of business. You sign on for big bucks and then told to stay home.

 

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