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I watched the BMW after watching the Scottish womens open (or any other euro tourney)  a week or so ago.  The fan interaction is a stark contrast.  Fans in Europe don't yell abusively at players or taunt them.   The most stupid scream: "in the hole", typically yelled after any shot by some clown who just wants to have his voice on TV.   It's getting more pathetic by the day and the PGA does nothing about it.  I guess the answer for me is to put the TV on mute or watch something else altogether.   Simple manners or respect has fallen to the wayside.  A sad reality.  

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That said… it's sports. Look at how European fans react when watching their "football." Or during a Ryder Cup.

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I think it is ok as long as it’s not while in the swing. Just look at baseball or football, if you’re playing at the professional level then part of the game are the spectators. Fans and hatters. Booing and cheering. If they were cussing and swearing at the player making threats maybe I’d agree. But, after the shot yelling “in the hole” nah…just a part of professional sports IMO. 

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57 minutes ago, iacas said:

That said… it's sports. Look at how European fans react when watching their "football." Or during a Ryder Cup.

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Sometimes I think the Waste Management Tournament has given fans the idea they can yell or chant at players anytime they want. Golf fans are younger and they seem to do what they want when they play or go to any sporting event including golf.  Drink a few cans of encouragement and anything goes!  

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Lol I remember being at a soccer game in Colombia, watching in horror as grown men pissed into plastic bags to throw at players...

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14 minutes ago, colin007 said:

Lol I remember being at a soccer game in Colombia, watching in horror as grown men pissed into plastic bags to throw at players...

They told us not to go any soccer games in Buenos Aires. Too dangerous.

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I put them right up there with the clowns who honk their horns or yell out the window when they drive by a golfer getting ready to hit their shot.  Childish behavior? Attention seeking?  Whatever.  As long as they think they're special.  🙂 

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9 minutes ago, Never3putt said:

I put them right up there with the clowns who honk their horns or yell out the window when they drive by a golfer getting ready to hit their shot.  Childish behavior? Attention seeking?  Whatever.  As long as they think they're special.  🙂 

Many years ago we were playing a hole along a road. Some toolbag blares his horn and yells "FORE" just as my buddy was swinging. He quickly reteed and sent a ball after the car, and he bounced it right off the roof. Ahole in the car never came back........

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4 hours ago, boogielicious said:

They told us not to go any soccer games in Buenos Aires. Too dangerous.

Yeah, we do things differently down there lol

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Yup....that's sports.  

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23 minutes ago, Big Lex said:

Yup....that's sports.  

Sports is a reflection of the world. You'll see both the best in people and the worst.  

The ugly seems to get a disproportionate amount of attention. 

 

 

 

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I find the "get in the hole!", "mashed potatoes", etc. shouting irritating and dumb, but I wouldn't say it lacks civility. And honestly, if the spectator paid to get into the event, and is not explicitly breaking any rule outlined in the ticket contract, then they are entitled to do it, as stupid as it is.

I think certain aspects of the Bryson/Brooks troll-fest is in poor taste and tiresome by now. But then again, these are professional athletes playing at the highest level for millions of dollars, so if Bryson is going to let fans get under his skin with "Brooksie", he needs to find a way to block it out, or feed off of it.

Obviously, not cool if it's when the player is in their swing, but other than that, I think fans will be fans.

All that said, I would not mind at all if PGA and USGA (and R&A too, but I don't know their policies) took a stance similar to ANGC on some of this stuff, if only because it makes the TV experience better. Also, unlike other sports, in golf the fans are much closer to the players, and maybe some heckling might cross a line and lead to some sort of altercation between player and fan, which would be bad all around.

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22 hours ago, Sandy Lie said:

Golf fans are younger and they seem to do what they want when they play or go to any sporting event including golf.  

Younger than who? I'm not trolling. Just asking. 

22 hours ago, colin007 said:

Lol I remember being at a soccer game in Colombia, watching in horror as grown men pissed into plastic bags to throw at players...

I can remember watching Monday Night football back when Wide Neck Bottles were still sold at Football Games. I remember Pat Summerall saying something like "Oh the fans are upset. They are throwing half filled bottles of beer on the field.... There's no call for that." And then a pause and a few moments later John Madden goes "I don't think that's beer?" 

21 hours ago, boogielicious said:

They told us not to go any soccer games in Buenos Aires. Too dangerous.

I've been to a couple of European Soccer Football Stadiums and they all have a section of about 1/10 of the stands which have a huge wall (usually some form of protective glass) separating the section the visiting fans are allowed to sit in. 

 

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Also, unlike other sports, in golf the fans are much closer to the players, and maybe some heckling might cross a line and lead to some sort of altercation between player and fan, which would be bad all around.

I think this is a realistic fear. As golf fans you get great access to the action when you attend a golf tournament. It only takes one A-hole to ruin it for all of us. I would hate to have a 1993 Monica Seles incident. 

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“Younger than who? I'm not trolling. Just asking.”

Understand.

When I look at the crowds I see guys who look like their anywhere between 25-40 in my estimation.  I’ve been to several PGA events and alcohol sales are through the roof. I actually think they should cut it off at some point during the day.  Anyway but from whatI witness younger guys who are with their buddies get to much of  “liquid encouragement” and when that happens all bets are off. 
Sometimes I think they like to be the guy who yells something and he is recording the event and plays his DVR back and says “that was me”!  

I agree the other poster in this thread was spot on when he said fans who yell “get in the hole” (usually on a Par 5 tee shot) and “Mashed Potatoes” is just plain idiotic.


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I wonder if fans yell, "In the hole!" or some equivalent nonsense at pro bowling tournies...   😄


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1 hour ago, Zippo said:

I wonder if fans yell, "In the hole!" or some equivalent nonsense at pro bowling tournies...   😄

Only when the bowler looks confused when he picks up his ball.

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