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TaylorMade Prepping to produce Non-Conforming Clubs

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In this article by Steve Pike , TaylorMade-adidas Executive Vice President Sean Toulon suggests the company is working on some non-conforming equipment to help grow the game. I guess we'll find out if the equipment rules are really holding golfers back from playing the game lol   Should be interesting.

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Neither TaylorMade-adidas Golf CEO Mark King nor Executive Vice President Sean Toulon are fans of the USGA’s anchoring ban that takes effect in 2016. King this past January went as far saying the ban – aimed at long putters and belly putters – would be the demise of the U.S. Golf Association. Toulon last week at an equipment seminar in Orlando said he believes the ban will keep Champions Tour stars Fred Couples and Bernard Langer from competing in 2016 when it takes effect.
TMaG’s next move? Probably within the next 18 months, Toulon told me, TMaG or one of its other companies (think Adams Golf) will unveil a new line of “bunny slope” clubs.

“We’ll go right to USGA jail with all this stuff,” said Toulon, the implication being the new clubs will not conform to the USGA Rules of Golf.

Stay tuned.

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The USGA risks creating demand for a rival association.

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The ego of TM is getting a little out of control.

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I only hope they're labelled properly, and in a way that can't be covered up with some paint. Otherwise this could make low-key amateur tournaments and club championships a mess.
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I started playing golf a month and a half ago and I can tell you that before that time, I had never heard of a "long putter", "belly putter", or "anchoring". My recent interest in playing golf had absolutely nothing to do with the equipment.  Nothing. At. All.

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I only hope they're labelled properly, and in a way that can't be covered up with some paint..

That's pretty amazing paint if it can disguise a long putter! ;-)

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That's pretty amazing paint if it can disguise a long putter! ;-)

I was assuming they were talking about non-conforming woods and irons too. The long putter is still legal as a piece of equipment, after all. But, y'know, maybe they'll take the "Ghost" name literally.

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I have no problem with this. If a hacker is going to take mulligans on every other hole who cares if he uses a nonconforming club? If someone rakes in their four-footer what's the difference?
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Eh... kind of disappointed by this. What's the point of playing the game if your going to do it with clubs that are against the rules. Obviously a lot of people don't care but, still, I don't like it.

It seems like TaylorMade is just pressing the issue and trying to get under the skin of the USGA.

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But, y'know, maybe they'll take the "Ghost" name literally.

Lol. Maybe they will. (I was just having some fun. Hope you don't think I was busting your chops :-D )

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Originally Posted by tristanhilton85

Eh... kind of disappointed by this. What's the point of playing the game if your going to do it with clubs that are against the rules. Obviously a lot of people don't care but, still, I don't like it.

It seems like TaylorMade is just pressing the issue and trying to get under the skin of the USGA.

Agreed 100%.

Playing a game by bending the rules and not playing it the way it was meant to be played is like playing Texas Hold'em against yourself, GoFish against yourself, a pick-up basketball game on a 7' hoop, etc. To me it is just pointless and lightens the challenge that makes the game appealing. Honestly, we all cuss our ball up and down sometimes, and even ourselves, but the challenge of the game and reaping occasional rewards against all odds on that "day maker" shot is what keeps us honest and coming back for more.

I don't want a 500cc driver, or a wedge with wider non-conforming grooves. I don't want to go to a bunny slope 9 hole course and shoot under par and hang the scorecard up on my fridge.

Damnit, I want to go shoot my 78-88 and either get celebratory drunk after my round or laugh in a crazy-guy way after blowing up back to back snowmen on my scorecard type of drunk! Either way, I'm grinding with the rules and continuing my borderline stroke-inducing game!

PS: F TaylorMade and Mark King.

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I'm with Jamo, as long as they have some identifying feature that can't be masked so you know what it is...maybe a built in mp3 thingy that screams "cheater!" when you swing it.
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well I play wedges that are no longer conforming (cg15's) and I certainly dont care. Im in no way going to play any type of competition. I'm like the idea a little

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Originally Posted by Forsythe04

well I play wedges that are no longer conforming (cg15's) and I certainly dont care. Im in no way going to play any type of competition. I'm like the idea a little

FYI, if you don't play in competition, then your wedges are not actually non-conforming until 2024.  I'm guessing most people like you will have bought new ones by then, not even necessarily because they want to conform, but simply because it's a long time to have wedges.

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Originally Posted by GaijinGolfer

The ego of TM is getting a little out of control.

Originally Posted by jamo

I only hope they're labelled properly, and in a way that can't be covered up with some paint. Otherwise this could make low-key amateur tournaments and club championships a mess.

Originally Posted by tristanhilton85

Eh... kind of disappointed by this. What's the point of playing the game if your going to do it with clubs that are against the rules. Obviously a lot of people don't care but, still, I don't like it.

It seems like TaylorMade is just pressing the issue and trying to get under the skin of the USGA.

Is it possible that that King guy is just full of hot air?  I mean, he seems to be kind of a loudmouth jerk, so perhaps he's just talking big, but doesn't actually plan on doing this?

I really can't imagine that there would be THAT big of a market for non-conforming clubs.  People you see on the golf course that use goofy things like the no-slice tees or the ball (that starts with a "p", but I forgot the actual name) that promises to go straight, are few and far between, AND are usually laughed at IN FRONT of their backs.

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Bunny Slopes... I wonder what their marketing team will dream up for these non-conforming clubs?

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