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Is it too much height in my shot a good thing?

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8 minutes ago, Shorty said:

Your lowest score is 85. You hit your irons pro distances "with accuracy and incredible height" (your words). You "tend to three putt sometimes" And you wonder why a member is sceptical?

Why do you even suspect that your "incredible" height is an issue? You don't even mention how high you hit it relative to others.

I'll tell you how to reduce your scores: Stop taking 4 shots to get up and down from the fringe, because your stated accuracy, distance, putting and scores don't add up.

If your claims were accurate you would say that you are on or around the green in regulation all the time - how can you not be with accuarcy AND distance? - but still bogey 80% of the holes. It's pretty obvious why someone would question your claims.

 

What we really want to know is: How much ya bench?

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4 hours ago, Shorty said:

Your lowest score is 85. You hit your irons pro distances "with accuracy and incredible height" (your words). You "tend to three putt sometimes" And you wonder why a member is sceptical?

Why do you even suspect that your "incredible" height is an issue? You don't even mention how high you hit it relative to others.

I'll tell you how to reduce your scores: Stop taking 4 shots to get up and down from the fringe, because your stated accuracy, distance, putting and scores don't add up.

If your claims were accurate you would say that you are on or around the green in regulation all the time - how can you not be with accuarcy AND distance? - but still bogey 80% of the holes. It's pretty obvious why someone would question your claims.

 

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26 minutes ago, StefanUrkel said:

Why would it be good?  More height=More time to go offline. 

I guess I should stop hitting wedges...

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On 07/01/2017 at 7:18 PM, irockvdubs said:

I was wondering when someone like you was gonna reply on this thread.

 For like him, there is always someone like you who comes on here and States some yardage that seems pretty unlikely. And always has the same argument about how they play golf for themselves and not to impress other people. Yet you like to see people's faces when they play with you. I get it I've been there. Just realize that we see a lot of guys like you here so you need to be more patient if you want information.

I'm in the same boat, I can hit the ball pretty far and I hit it really high so on Windy days it just blows me all over. I have been hitting a number of knock down shots lately which have helped considerably but we still need to work around the green and as much as it's nice to Pure shots on the Range all day, the equally important part of scoring is the short game. I did not work as hard on this area as I should have in the past so it's taking me some time to catch up. Your scores will go down the closer you get the ball to the hole on chips and the more putts you make. Duh.....right?

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I have a (very) high ball flight, and it's a mixed bag. Means it's easy to stop a ball without a lot of spin on approach shots, even long approaches. And my partners are always surprised at my ability to go over trees that would be in the way for many players. But high ball flight is definitely a hindrance on windy days.  I'd be happier with lower ball flight, but I'm sure that will come with age...

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Launch monitor will tell the story. IME most amateurs don't hit it too high even those that flip at it. Not crazy about anecdotal evidence but I'll share some. My previous instructor hosts group sessions, informal just a bunch of students in adjacent stalls on the range and he goes to and fro offering mini advice based on what we've been working on in personal lessons. He keeps one stall open with FlightScope and all his gadgets.

Back up a little bit for the story. At my first lesson he told me we were going to work on two things, one led to another, the byproduct if you will and it was hitting the ball higher. Which shocked me because on the range and when I encounter others on the course I am almost always the golfer with the highest flight. So I questioned it and he showed my FS numbers and my apex was 73-78 feet. Not low but certainly not high and lower than I guessed.

Fast forward to the group session and every one of his students on that day, mostly higher handicap golfers was hitting low-ish shots and he was working with them to get the ball up a bit. He called me over to hit some shots to demonstrate what higher looks like while the others stop to watch, at that time I was in the 85 feet range. Just as I finished a kid walks up carrying a bag with a D1 college logo and he is someone my instructor knows from the club, probably a previous student, and he calls that guy over to hit some shots. It made my shots look low. Not only that he was pummeling it and the apex was way out in the distance. Since then the only time I've seen anyone hit high shots like that was when the PGA Tour was here for the BMW and when I catch our shop pro out on the course.

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On 6/28/2017 at 7:27 PM, iacas said:

 

14 hours ago, iacas said:

Wedges don't go any higher than a 4-iron (or shouldn't).

Maybe not for you!
My short irons/wedges go sky high. I have been accused of trying to "bring rain".
 

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It's perception and the fact that wedges are easier to make good contact with. The apex is closer to your eyes and a higher handicap golfer hits a big mix of good to bad shots with longer clubs that fly lower than most of their better struck wedge shots.

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40 minutes ago, Elmer said:

Maybe not for you!
My short irons/wedges go sky high. I have been accused of trying to "bring rain".
 

How high do they go? 

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2 hours ago, saevel25 said:

How high do they go? 

My launch angle has always been high. I dont know the exact number, but when I started I was at a 16 and have since lowered it down to a 10 or 11 (if memory serves).
I know those who play with me remark about how my drives get "up there". My drives launch high and stay in the sky much higher than anyone else I golf with. I am sure I loose some distance due to the height. However, considering I average 260 on my drive, hitting anywhere from 270 to 290 once a round I have not worked too hard to address the issue.

On the other hand my wedges seem to go "homerun in a silo" high. My sand wedge travels about 110-100 yards, while my 60 tops out at 80 yrds.
I think this may have to do with a flop shot like swing with my wedges,which is another bad habit I need to address.

I usually don't fear clearing most average tree lines do to my height. 

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On ‎6‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 5:33 PM, irockvdubs said:

these are my max distance shots that I can hit with accuracy and incredible height (I say this so readers know it's not a fat shot or a shank):

Pw - 130-150

9i - 160-170

8i - 180

7i - 190-200

6i - 210- 225

5i - 235-240

4hyb - 240-255

3i - 250 (idk why I can't hit this further)

3wood- 275

Driver 290-305

I tend to 3 putt sometimes. 

I've worked really hard to get this far and now I don't wanna stop till I consistently shoot par or under... I understand how difficult that goal is but in the next 2 years I wanna consistently start shooting even par! 

So, can someone give me tips on what I can do to lower my score and with the distance I have, is too much height a bad thing? I kind of like having high apex on my shots. My balls from 100-200 yards away, almost never roll off the green. But when it's windy, my accuracy is affected. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you 

People are skeptical because of this...not only are your distances PGA Tour type distances, but you say you "can hit with accuracy and incredible height".  If you hit your clubs these distances and "with accuracy" you should not be shooting 85-87.  My PW-7i distances are about the same, 6i-3W is a bit shorter, and Driver is about 294 according to Arccos, but I am also a 1 handicap and am not out there shooting 85-87.  Create a thread in the "Members Swings" and that should clear up some cloudiness to the distance claim.  Unless you 3 putt every hole and chip it around the greens a couple times each hole, those distances and "accuracy" should not yield 85-87 scores.

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seriously, I shoot in the mid-80's pretty consistently.  I'm a below average putter and I hit the ball with inaccuracy and incredible inconsistency.  

It just doesn't add up.  not with those distances.  

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On 6/29/2017 at 6:33 PM, irockvdubs said:

these are my max distance shots that I can hit with accuracy and incredible height (I say this so readers know it's not a fat shot or a shank):

....

I tend to 3 putt sometimes. 

I have to agree with @Grinde6, this doesn't add up.  Distance plus accuracy means good scores.  My best guess is that :

     Your distance for each club isn't consistent, so you hit long and short a lot

     Your accuracy really isn't good

     You short game and putting isn't very good, way beyond "3 putt sometimes"

That's the only way you can shoot consistently in the mid-80s or higher with anything near the kind of distance you say you have.  So how do you get better?  Get instruction, post a video of your swing in the Member Swing part of this website.  By improving your swing mechanics, your accuracy will improve, both with more consistent distance and tighter dispersion laterally.  Learn to plan your practice, to improve the important things.  Learn short game and putting.  Improve your course management.  Buy Lowest Score Wins, its an excellent source of advice about evaluating and planning both practice and play, especially for a relatively newer golfer.

But to answer the original question, I sincerely doubt that hitting the ball too high should be anywhere near your primary concern.

 

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On 7/2/2017 at 7:25 PM, iacas said:

Wedges don't go any higher than a 4-iron (or shouldn't).

Well, I'm obviously doing something wrong...  :whistle:

Edit:  Or maybe not, I guess it's hard for me to tell where a 4 iron peaks since it's a ways out there, or at least further than a wedge.

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