2018 PGA Championship at Bellerive

[Foretheloveofgolf]

It is pretty embarrassing that they have ZJ listed with the same odds as some of the club pro's. No disrespect to them- but it isn't their full time job. Love ZJ as a pick

[Groucho Valentine]

12 hours ago, iacas said:

Yeah, like, oh, I don't know… Firestone? He's only won there eight times. Narrow fairways. Thick rough. Gotta hit a lot of drivers.

Thats not where they are playing the PGA, but alright...

[billchao]

25 minutes ago, Foretheloveofgolf said:

It is pretty embarrassing that they have ZJ listed with the same odds as some of the club pro's. No disrespect to them- but it isn't their full time job. Love ZJ as a pick

Zach Johnson the tour player is listed at 80:1 or something. Zach J. Johnson is a club pro.

[colin007]

23 minutes ago, Groucho Valentine said:

Thats not where they are playing the PGA, but alright...

Uh, he's comparing Firestone to Bellerive. You made somewhat of a blanket statement implying that Tiger wouldn't do well at this type of track, @iacas merely gave an example of a similar place that Tigs has pwned during his career.

[Groucho Valentine]

58 minutes ago, billchao said:

Zach Johnson the tour player is listed at 80:1 or something. Zach J. Johnson is a club pro.

I was really bummed when i found that out. I was seriously about to drop $200 on tour Zach Johnson.

[Foretheloveofgolf]

On 7/23/2018 at 8:29 PM, brocks said:

From http://golfodds.com/upcoming-major-odds.html.

If you can find a bookie who isn't paying too close attention, try to get Zach Johnson at 2000-1 (there's a Zach J. Johnson at those odds)

PGA Championship
Bellerive Country Club - St. Louis, Missouri
August 9 - 12, 2018

ODDS to Win:
Rory McIlroy	12/1
Jordan Spieth	12/1
Dustin Johnson	12/1
Tiger Woods	16/1
Rickie Fowler	16/1
Justin Thomas	16/1
Justin Rose	18/1
Brooks Koepka	20/1
Jon Rahm	20/1
Tommy Fleetwood	25/1
Francesco Molinari	25/1
Jason Day	25/1
Hideki Matsuyama	30/1
Patrick Reed	30/1
Henrik Stenson	40/1
Paul Casey	40/1
Alex Noren	40/1
Phil Mickelson	50/1
Sergio Garcia	50/1
Bubba Watson	50/1
Tony Finau	50/1
Xander Schauffele	50/1
Matt Kuchar	50/1
Marc Leishman	60/1
Branden Grace	60/1
Louis Oosthuizen	60/1
Patrick Cantlay	60/1
Bryson DeChambeau	60/1
Webb Simpson	60/1
Adam Scott	80/1
Zach Johnson	80/1
Kevin Kisner	80/1
Ian Poulter	100/1
Thomas Pieters	100/1
Tyrrell Hatton	100/1
Rafael Cabrera Bello	100/1
Daniel Berger	100/1
Kevin Chappell	100/1
Brian Harman	100/1
Brandt Snedeker	100/1
Charley Hoffman	100/1
Jason Dufner	125/1
Jimmy Walker	125/1
Emiliano Grillo	125/1
Matthew Fitzpatrick	125/1
Charl Schwartzel	125/1
Martin Kaymer	150/1
Ryan Moore	150/1
Kevin Na	150/1
Russell Knox	150/1
Peter Uihlein	150/1
Russell Henley	150/1
Kyle Stanley	150/1
Brendan Steele	150/1
Luke List	150/1
Haotong Li	150/1
Byeong Hun An	150/1
Gary Woodland	150/1
Kiradech Aphibarnrat	150/1
Lee Westwood	150/1
Keegan Bradley	150/1
Pat Perez	150/1
J.B. Holmes	150/1
Aaron Wise	150/1
Joaquin Niemann	150/1
Bill Haas	150/1
Billy Horschel	150/1
Shane Lowry	200/1
Beau Hossler	200/1
Chris Wood	200/1
Andy Sullivan	200/1
Danny Willett	200/1
Charles Howell III	200/1
Michael Kim	200/1
Adam Hadwin	200/1
Cameron Smith	200/1
Si Woo Kim	200/1
Chez Reavie	250/1
Scott Piercy	250/1
Austin Cook	250/1
Chesson Hadley	250/1
Shubhankar Sharma	250/1
Jim Furyk	250/1
Padraig Harrington	250/1
Ross Fisher	250/1
James Hahn	300/1
Satoshi Kodaira	300/1
Ollie Schniederjans	300/1
Bernd Wiesberger	300/1
Jordan Smith	300/1
Brice Garnett	300/1
Andrew Landry	300/1
Patton Kizzire	300/1
J.J. Spaun	300/1
Ryan Armour	500/1
Ted Potter, Jr	500/1
Chris Stroud	500/1
Scott Brown	500/1
Vijay Singh	500/1
Davis Love III	500/1
John Daly	1000/1
Rich Beem	1000/1
Y.E. Yang	1000/1
Paul Broadhurst	1000/1
Omar Uresti	1000/1
Rich Berberian, Jr	1000/1
Matt Dobyns	1000/1
Marty Jertsen	1000/1
Shaun Micheel	2000/1
Craig Bowden	2000/1
Michael Block	2000/1
Bob Sowards	2000/1
David Muttitt	2000/1
Jaysen Hansen	2000/1
Brian Smock	2000/1
Sean McCarty	2000/1
Matt Borchert	2000/1
Zach J. Johnson	2000/1
Jason Schmuhl	2000/1
Danny Balin	2000/1
Ben Kern	2000/1
Ryan Vermeer	2000/1
Shaun Warren	2000/1
Craig Hocknull	2000/1
Johan Kok	2000/1

There is actually a club pro who qualified named Zach Johnson. That’s probably who “Zach J Johnson” is. May want to double check before throwing cash down

[Shindig]

9 hours ago, Foretheloveofgolf said:

There is actually a club pro who qualified named Zach Johnson. That’s probably who “Zach J Johnson” is. May want to double check before throwing cash down

I love seeing things like this when a company has an IPO and a ticker that might be the choice they'd have made goes up when people buy that one without checking.  I'm not quite clever enough to make money off of this, though.

[iacas]

11 hours ago, Groucho Valentine said:

Thats not where they are playing the PGA, but alright...

Uhhhh…

11 hours ago, colin007 said:

Uh, he's comparing Firestone to Bellerive. You made somewhat of a blanket statement implying that Tiger wouldn't do well at this type of track, @iacas merely gave an example of a similar place that Tigs has pwned during his career.

The above.

[Wally Fairway]

Tee Times & Pairings released for first 2 rounds at Bellerive CC

https://www.pga.com/sites/default/files/2018-PGA-Championship-Round-1%262-starting-times.pdf

Marquee groups -
Rickie, Matsuyama, IJP
Thomas, McIlroy, Tiger
Phil, Day, Keegan (?)
DJ, Scott, Bubba
Reed, Koepka, Molinari
Spieth, Rahm, Rose

and many more
 

[nevets88]

Wonder who else opted for shawts.

 

[nevets88]

Looks like they put a little distance between players and spectators here at the practice range (as they did at USO) as well.

 

[nevets88]

 

Adam Scott, DJ, long pants. Spieth, McIlroy, shorts.

 

Chris Kirk. shorts

 

[Shindig]

When did they start being allowed to wear shorts?  I'm not complaining because even I'm wearing shorts now.  Just wondering, because I remember when even the caddies had to wear long pants.

[Club Rat]

4 minutes ago, Shindig said:

When did they start being allowed to wear shorts?

It's a PGA thing I think they started this year for this event only which allows players to wear shorts during practice rounds only.

[Shindig]

7 minutes ago, Club Rat said:

It's a PGA thing I think they started this year for this event only which allows players to wear shorts during practice rounds only.

No wonder I hadn't heard of it.  Thanks!

[Club Rat]

It's a hot one in STL today with thunderstorms in the forecast for tomorrow and then great weather the rest of the week.

A friend sent me a few pics while he attended today. The news was saying many would attend to buy merchandise today.

[colin007]

How do they enforce the no shorts policy for practice rounds? 

[Club Rat]

https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2018/08/06/why-pga-championship-players-wearing-golf-shorts-practice-rounds-103450/

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If you're tuning into early coverage of the 2018 PGA Championship at Bellerive Country Club in St. Louis, you've probably seen players in the year's final major wearing golf shorts in the hot Missouri sun.

This is different from every other PGA Tour event, where players aren't wearing shorts, even when the temperatures swell into the 90s and higher. That's because this event is run by the PGA of America, and in 2017, the organization putting on the PGA Championship decided golfers would be allowed to wear shorts during practice rounds starting in 2017 at Quail Hollow Club.

That means golfers are able to show a little leg in preparing to win the Wanamaker trophy. On Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, players can wear shorts. When the tournament starts on Thursday and through its conclusion on Sunday (or, God forbid, Monday), players have to wear pants.

This modern-thinking rule should be appealing to players who have been hoping for the PGA Tour to join the European Tour in allowing their players to wear shorts in practice rounds. The European Tour approved that change in 2016, and players took advantage by showing their gams during practice days.

So, you'll get a great view of players' calves for the Monday through Wednesday practice rounds, and then it's game time and the gams go into hiding...in the hot, hot heat.

 

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Published: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 | 3:48 p.m.

 

   Golfers: start working on those leg tans.

PGA President Paul Levy announced on Tuesday that shorts would be permitted for practice rounds in all PGA of America events going forward, most notably the KitchenAid Senior PGA Championship, PGA Professional Championship and PGA Championship.

The PGA Championship will be the first of the four major championships to allow contestants to wear shorts during practice rounds.

Great move.

The European Tour was at the forefront of this trend when it announced in January 2016 that it would permit shorts for practice rounds.

"Maybe. Why not?" Rory McIlroy said last year after the European Tour adopted the rule, when asked if shorts should also be allowed in competition. "It really depends if guys are comfortable or not. I don't think it takes anything away from the tradition of the game or etiquette or how guys look on the course.

"We're not going to go out in shorts at the British Open if it's 10 degrees (50 degrees F) and raining. But at the same time, if we're playing in a hot country and it's more comfortable for guys to wear shorts, then there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to."

When you consider the traditional August date for the PGA Championship -- right in the dead of summer -- this is a rational decision. Temperatures routinely flirt with the triple digits at any given PGA Championship venue.

It took years before caddies were allowed to wear shorts on the PGA Tour, which always seemed silly.

In a profession that chases the sun, really, what's the harm in a pair of tasteful shorts?

Once considered buttoned up and stuffy, golf has hit the mainstream in recent years and fashion is something that isn't taken lightly -- just ask players like Rickie Fowler, Darren Clarke, Jesper Parnevik and Bryson DeChambeau.

Here in 2017, would the majority of folks be offended by professionals wearing shorts in competition? I don't think so.

Wearing shorts in competition isn't being considered at this point in time, but perhaps this decision by the PGA of America paves the way for that discussion down the road. 

https://www.pga.com/news/golf-buzz/why-pga-america-allowing-shorts-practice-rounds-makes-sense