LIV Golf (Saudi PIF), "Mergers," and More

[iacas]

[DeadMan]

Whole thread is worth a read:

[JetFan1983]

39 minutes ago, DeadMan said:

Whole thread is worth a read:

😆

[Golfingdad]

19 hours ago, iacas said:

Just watched my first (and probably last) few minutes of LIV.  My local cable company has CW at channel 5 immediately adjacent to PGA tour on channel 4.

I enjoyed it for one reason: cuz I played Mayakoba a few months ago.  But everything else, very meh.  Don’t like the teams, the colorful graphics, the shorts, the music in the background??, among the other obvious and previously discussed issues.

 

Edited February 25, 2023 by Golfingdad

[jmanbooyaa]

It was unwatchable today. Nothing special about these Sunday morning mens club groupings. Dj’s demeanor reminds me of a newly middle aged player. Bubba the hipster middle aged dude still cracking jokes during a round. Paul Casey looks like my uncle and Brooks just doesn’t want to be playing. Still good golfers just doesn’t look like they are playing for anything. I could be wrong, just the optics I see. 

[Golfingdad]

1 minute ago, jmanbooyaa said:

It was unwatchable today. Nothing special about these Sunday morning mens club groupings. Dj’s demeanor reminds me of a newly middle aged player. Bubba the hipster middle aged dude still cracking jokes during a round. Paul Casey looks like my uncle and Brooks just doesn’t want to be playing. Still good golfers just doesn’t look like they are playing for anything. I could be wrong, just the optics I see. 

Actually this is a perfect summation of WHY I dont like the things I listed above.  Shorts, or music, or the teams, by themselves don’t necessarily mens anything bad, but you’re dead on - it’s like what they’re doing doesn’t matter.  And if it don’t matter to them it sure as heck don’t matter to me.

[iacas]

Eight CBS-owned CW affiliates, several others will not air LIV Golf

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Last week’s announcement by The CW that LIV Golf “will air in 100 percent of its markets across the United States” was thought of as a coup for the Saudi-operated golf league, but there are new details emerging...

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Deadline reports that several CW affiliates will *not* be airing LIV Golf events, including all eight CBS-owned and operated affiliates across the country. Those eight affiliates are in Philadelphia, Atlanta, San Francisco, Tampa, Seattle, Detroit, Sacramento, and Pittsburgh. Additionally, the Weigel-owned affiliate in Chicago will not air LIV, nor will Tegna-owned affiliates like San Diego and Hartford

Bummer.

[dennyjones]

I get my TV thru Hulu Live.  They are showing the CW golf show

[BlackDiamondPar5]

LIV Golf posts dismal rating for CW debut. 

Saturday's second-round ratings are in and they are brutal. The event averaged a 0.2 in the 26 markets that carried it. Just absolutely brutal.

 

 

LIV Golf Posts Horrid Ratings For First Event of 2023

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LIV Golf wrapped up its first tournament of 2023 on Sunday in Mayakoba...

 

 

 

 

[Bucki1968]

16 minutes ago, BlackDiamondPar5 said:

LIV Golf posts dismal rating for CW debut. 

Saturday's second-round ratings are in and they are brutal. The event averaged a 0.2 in the 26 markets that carried it. Just absolutely brutal.

 

 

LIV Golf Posts Horrid Ratings For First Event of 2023

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LIV Golf wrapped up its first tournament of 2023 on Sunday in Mayakoba...

 

 

 

 

I actually tuned in on Saturday and for the first 10 minutes, they had no audio. Talk about a bad omen. I watched a little on Sunday and it just isn't that interesting. Far more intriguing stories coming out of the Honda. I saw a post on Facebook from a LIV supporter talking about the lousy leaderboard at Honda. Like Charles Howell and Peter Uihlein is so much better? Paul Casey? At least the Honda guys had something to play for. Watching some of those LIV guys, it just looks like they really don't care. I'm wondering if some of the "hype" and new formats has kinda run its course. No new big names this year. 

[Elmer]

On 2/25/2023 at 5:56 PM, jmanbooyaa said:

Still good golfers just doesn’t look like they are playing for anything

Exactly.  They are not playing for their livelihood. They are not playing to qualify for next weeks round. They are not playing to solidify their legacy among PGA legends. They are playing because they sold their soul and their owners told them to play!

"Players must play in every LIV event as a fundamental condition of their contract, and LIV retains "sole discretion" in the number, location, or dates of events."

[BlackDiamondPar5]

33 minutes ago, Elmer said:

Exactly.  They are not playing for their livelihood. They are not playing to qualify for next weeks round. They are not playing to solidify their legacy among PGA legends. They are playing because they sold their soul and their owners told them to play!

"Players must play in every LIV event as a fundamental condition of their contract, and LIV retains "sole discretion" in the number, location, or dates of events."

Yep. Basically they've had life changing and in some cases" "generational wealth" dropped in their laps. Kind of like winning the lottery or getting a big inheritance that they didn't have to work for. 

 

[chspeed]

1 hour ago, BlackDiamondPar5 said:

Yep. Basically they've had life changing and in some cases" "generational wealth" dropped in their laps. Kind of like winning the lottery or getting a big inheritance that they didn't have to work for. 

You can disdain their choice all you want, I certainly don't like it, but they had to work very hard to get these offers and will continue to have to work to meet their obligations. Nothing like winning a lottery or getting an inheritance IMO.

[Golfingdad]

8 hours ago, Bucki1968 said:

I actually tuned in on Saturday and for the first 10 minutes, they had no audio. Talk about a bad omen. I watched a little on Sunday and it just isn't that interesting. Far more intriguing stories coming out of the Honda. I saw a post on Facebook from a LIV supporter talking about the lousy leaderboard at Honda. Like Charles Howell and Peter Uihlein is so much better? Paul Casey? At least the Honda guys had something to play for. Watching some of those LIV guys, it just looks like they really don't care. I'm wondering if some of the "hype" and new formats has kinda run its course. No new big names this year. 

Yup.  I never heard of Eric Cole before yesterday and I very likely might forget his name tomorrow - but his story was compelling and it made the tournament interesting to watch.  There's nothing compelling and interesting about LIV, IMO.

 

[Vinsk]

4 hours ago, chspeed said:

but they had to work very hard to get these offers

Millions of people work just as hard but never get the opportunity these guys got…thanks to the PGA TOUR for most of them.

[JetFan1983]

🤣

This is what beat LIV golf this weekend, lmao:

 

[jmanbooyaa]

The most interesting thing I saw on Friday was that the CW app had the 1st season of Wayward Pines to stream. Who knew a show ai enjoyed from a few years ago was available to re watch. 

[ChetlovesMer]

5 hours ago, chspeed said:

You can disdain their choice all you want, I certainly don't like it, but they had to work very hard to get these offers and will continue to have to work to meet their obligations. Nothing like winning a lottery or getting an inheritance IMO.

This is a valid point. 

I don't like their choices either. I have said many times that I wouldn't take the money. But it won't be offered to me either. ... Unless @iacas can really coach me up in the next year or two. The guy is a great coach, but he's not a miracle worker. 🤪

Seriously though, every one of those guys is/was very talented and has worked hard at their craft for a long time. I don't like LIV Golf. I want it to fail. I want it to go away.