AimPoint Green Reading

[jbishop15]

Do you have to actually use a spirit level (and other tools) when you use this to play? I'm pretty sure I would be ridiculed if I rolled up to the green and pulled out a digital spirit level to start my reading process! Or is the spirit level what you use on the practice green so you learn how to assess without it? I am only a beginner but I can't imagine ever being able to tell what % a slope is just by standing on it.

No, no tools. It's really not hard at all. It took the most minimal bit of practice and I had it down. It's really helped a lot.

[dchoye]

Just took a lesson on aim point express and really liked it. I think it will help me. I was always second guessing my reads and this method makes me committed to my read. Then all I need to think about is my speed when I roll my putts. Too often I was wishy washy and made a non confident stroke Will try it next time I'm at the course

[rkim291968]

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Originally Posted by iacas

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Yeah, but, for me, I play at least 10 rounds per months and it is a fairly a good indication of how well I am putting that month.   If I see any variable that can explain a sudden reduction/increase in total putt besides what I am doing with Aimpoint/Fitted Putter, I will note it.

I agree with @saevel25. You're dealing with too small a sample size. 33 putts or so will see 10+% changes fairly easily (three putts). And I've shot lower on rounds where I have 32 putts than rounds with 26 putts.

Over the course of many months and hundreds of rounds, it will tell the story.   My avg. total putt month to month (at least 10 rounds/month) stayed in mid 33's for good part of the last 2 years.    In May, I was still getting used to both but managed 32.62 putts/round.  It's a stroke better than my two year long average but within margin of normal variance.  June will be the 1st month that I will be taking full advantage of fitted putter & Aimpoint.  I need to see 3 - 4 months of the total put average dip below 32 before declaring victory.

My last 6 round total putts/round were 29-29-33-33-31-27 for 30.33 average.   Looking good.

The total putts per round average has settled into high 31 range after 50+ rounds later.   I estimate the improvement is about 1.5 stroke.   I was hoping for at least 2 but will take 1.5.

[saevel25]

http://www.pga.com/golf-instruction/instruction-feature/putting/jason-day-walk-line-your-putts?cid=pgacomsocial_fb_sf12079954

It may not be Aimpoint, but at least Jason Day uses his feet to help him read putts ;)

It seems to help him out. He's 9th in strokes gained putting on the year.

[rkim291968]

Yesterday, I finally took my digital level to my home course and charted few holes, whenever the group behind fell behind.  I think my "feel" guesses were about 70% right, and 30% wrong.   I don't think I can get that 30% right.  1% or 2% slope is hard to "feel."   Charting things out is the only sure way to take the full advantage of Aimpoint.

[SavvySwede]

Yesterday, I finally took my digital level to my home course and charted few holes, whenever the group behind fell behind.  I think my "feel" guesses were about 70% right, and 30% wrong.   I don't think I can get that 30% right.  1% or 2% slope is hard to "feel."   Charting things out is the only sure way to take the full advantage of Aimpoint.

Two balls only a few feet apart can break differently. The number of points you'd need to chart to get an accurate read seems impractical.

[rkim291968]

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Originally Posted by rkim291968

Yesterday, I finally took my digital level to my home course and charted few holes, whenever the group behind fell behind.  I think my "feel" guesses were about 70% right, and 30% wrong.   I don't think I can get that 30% right.  1% or 2% slope is hard to "feel."   Charting things out is the only sure way to take the full advantage of Aimpoint.

Two balls only a few feet apart can break differently. The number of points you'd need to chart to get an accurate read seems impractical.

I will do a few select ones I am having trouble with.    The rest will have to be a best guess effort.

[iacas]

Two balls only a few feet apart can break differently. The number of points you'd need to chart to get an accurate read seems impractical.

You'd be surprised at how few places you need to measure to pretty accurately read everything.

[rkim291968]

Last night, I took a digital level to a practice green at another range and tested my Aimpoint feel.   Geesh!   I wasn't getting the 70% success rate (within 0.5%) I've got when I charted a few holes at my home course.  On the new green, I got about 30% right.  Maybe even less than 30%.  How others are faring in getting the "feel' right on a new course?

[nevets88]

I've been taking a lot of readings w/the level during rounds and practicing and I can read 2s, 3s, 4s consistently. It's the 1s that I cannot get. I usually read them as 0. I've tried straddling w/some success. Getting better at reading "diagonals" - slopes up/down and left/right.

[iacas]

I've been taking a lot of readings w/the level during rounds and practicing and I can read 2s, 3s, 4s consistently. It's the 1s that I cannot get. I usually read them as 0. I've tried straddling w/some success. Getting better at reading "diagonals" - slopes up/down and left/right.

Try not to straddle. You're going to have a tough time convincing someone that you're not touching the line of your putt unless you go super wide, and then you'll tend to feel things as flatter than they are.

[billchao]

Last night, I took a digital level to a practice green at another range and tested my Aimpoint feel.   Geesh!   I wasn't getting the 70% success rate (within 0.5%) I've got when I charted a few holes at my home course.  On the new green, I got about 30% right.  Maybe even less than 30%.  How others are faring in getting the "feel' right on a new course?

I've gotten pretty good at feeling a 3 since that's what I use to calibrate myself and just adjusting from there. If I'm consistently under or over reading the greens all day, I'll make an adjustment mid-round.

Honestly, I don't get too bothered with getting it exactly right, since the speed of my putt and whether I actually hit my intended line are both going to affect how my putt breaks. I'll make the occasional long putt because of AimPoint, but the most important thing is I'm never guessing.

[nevets88]

Website got an upgrade: 

http://www.aimpointgolf.com/#/home

Looks like the DVD is on sale too, half a buck.

Website pointed me to the store and blog - which contained things I haven't seen before.

[Mr. Desmond]

27 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

Website got an upgrade: 

http://www.aimpointgolf.com/#/home

Looks like the DVD is on sale too, half a buck.

Website pointed me to the store and blog - which contained things I haven't seen before.

Great find - better than the former price of  $80. I use the DVD as a quick refresher.

[vangator]

I've thought about taking an Aimpoint class.  The problem is, I think the greens I play are unreadable.

[boogielicious]

1 minute ago, vangator said:

I've thought about taking an Aimpoint class.  The problem is, I think the greens I play are unreadable.

Unless they are perfectly flat, they're readable. And then they are easy.

[iacas]

2 hours ago, vangator said:

I've thought about taking an Aimpoint class.  The problem is, I think the greens I play are unreadable.

Why? Because that makes no sense… they still obey the laws of physics.

[billchao]

4 hours ago, vangator said:

I've thought about taking an Aimpoint class.  The problem is, I think the greens I play are unreadable.

You probably only think they are because you haven't been reading them the right way