You Vote: Birth of Child or Big Payday?

[Phil McGleno]

How much value do you place on being able to provide for your child for the rest of his life? Or even the first six years of his life?-The first ten?-18? I witnessed the birth of my second child-Had to it was in my kitchen. Not something I care to see again and I love my kids more than anything. [quote name="cipher" url="/t/77190/you-vote-birth-of-child-or-big-payday/18#post_1055335"]I am not saying it is about what the child remembers, it is about how much value you place on those memories with that child coming into the world.  Everyone is different I guess.  [/quote] You get to have your value system-I get to have mine. THis thread is just people voting on what they would do.-Lets save the condemnation of others for a thread on the Rules of Golf okay?-Thats a joke-trying to lighten the mood.-Not saying youre condemning anyone either. That has no place in this discussion man. [quote name="cipher" url="/t/77190/you-vote-birth-of-child-or-big-payday/18#post_1055335"]It also turns a lot of kids into little brats.   [/quote]

[RJH999]

Wow, I'm in the severe minority with "watching baby getting born".

Mind on ma money and money on ma mind son.

[Lihu]

Mind on ma money and money on ma mind son.

I suppose if I am guaranteed 11.4M versus seeing my baby getting born, there is more than a vague possibility that my wife would actually force me to get the money.

[cipher]

How much value do you place on being able to provide for your child for the rest of his life? Or even the first six years of his life?-The first ten?-18?

I witnessed the birth of my second child-Had to it was in my kitchen. Not something I care to see again and I love my kids more than anything.

You get to have your value system-I get to have mine. THis thread is just people voting on what they would do.-Lets save the condemnation of others for a thread on the Rules of Golf okay?-Thats a joke-trying to lighten the mood.-Not saying youre condemning anyone either.

That has no place in this discussion man.

I place the value on my ability to do that on my own and my life insurance policy to do that should I stop breathing.  And I am not talking about witnessing a birth.  I am I talking about those initial moments with that child.

P.S. I have no problem with anyone who takes the money.  But thanks for your concern about my possible condemnation of others .

[Lihu]

I place the value on my ability to do that on my own and my life insurance policy to do that should I stop breathing.  And I am not talking about witnessing a birth.  I am I talking about those initial moments with your child.

Agree, and fixed your wording, because I figured this is what you meant.

I think it makes a big difference to the child to know that he/she was important enough to you to be there when they were born.

My family was just reminiscing their births, and my wife and I could say that my son and daughters births were equally important to us. They mean a lot to us, and they know it. They have pictures to remind them of that fact too.

[inthehole]

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Originally Posted by inthehole

agreed - not exactly what I care to remember whenever I see that particular special place

hahahah!!!!  gives a new meaning to "in the hole" @inthehole...

anyways, im taking the money.  i have heard that there may be POOP involved with witnessing a birth.  NO GUSTA POOP.

NO GUSTA POOP - LOLOLOLOLOLOL !!    I literally busted out laughing at my desk envisioning that meme - nice !

[Dave2512]

Thing is unless you spend 24/7 with your wife in the days leading up to the birth you could miss all or part of it anyway. I have friends that missed the birth of their children unintentionally due to things they couldn't control. Baby comes unexpected, they are stuck on the job, travel takes longer than it should trying to get there. You have a lifetime to bond with your kids. I was born during a Super Bowl, my family jokes they had to miss it because of me. Funny thing was two years later the same thing happened with my brother, born during the SB.

[Phil McGleno]

Didnt say you were condeming people-said that I didnt think you were even.-But seemed headed that way, and I dont think we should put our value systems on other people. Maybe I dont care about holding my kid for the first hour of his/her existence.-Maybe being able to pay for their college without strain means more TO ME. I wouldn't say its right or wrong for anyone but me.-My wife would probably tell me Im wrong about that too. [quote name="cipher" url="/t/77190/you-vote-birth-of-child-or-big-payday/36#post_1055346"] P.S. I have no problem with anyone who takes the money.  But thanks for your concern about my possible condemnation of others . [/quote]

[iacas]

Thing is unless you spend 24/7 with your wife in the days leading up to the birth you could miss all or part of it anyway. I have friends that missed the birth of their children unintentionally due to things they couldn't control. Baby comes unexpected, they are stuck on the job, travel takes longer than it should trying to get there. You have a lifetime to bond with your kids. I was born during a Super Bowl, my family jokes they had to miss it because of me. Funny thing was two years later the same thing happened with my brother, born during the SB.

Maybe your parents should have taken May off or something…

[boogielicious]

Child.  That is one of my favorite memories of all time.  Worth 10X my salary.

[Zeph]

I think it makes a big difference to the child to know that he/she was important enough to you to be there when they were born.

I disagree. I don't know who were or weren't present for my birth and I don't care. My upbringing tells me all I need to know about how important I am to my parents. To flip it around, one could argue that the child is important enough that you would miss it's birth to provide income to support the child and your family for many years ahead.

It's an impossible choice of course, but if I could've decided if my father was present at my birth or able to get hold of a substantial amount of money, I'd chosen the latter.

It's different for each parent and each child, so maybe this poll can shed some light on how the distribution lies in here. I would guess though, that there are more children that would've not cared about the father being present than fathers willing to miss it to earn a lot of money.

[Golfingdad]

anyways, im taking the money.  i have heard that there may be POOP involved with witnessing a birth.  NO GUSTA POOP.

Don't want to burst your bubble but even if you avoid the poop that day, the following 3 years will be filled with poop every single day!

NO GUSTA POOP - LOLOLOLOLOLOL !!    I literally busted out laughing at my desk envisioning that meme - nice !

im eating lunch, so im trying not to envision it. ;)

[turtleback]

Wow, and to think many of our military men miss it for a mere couple thousand a month.

Too bad they didn't care enough about their kids.

Yes, I find that particular argument bordering on offensive - that a kid will think his dad didn't care as much about them because he wasn't there at the birth.  Being there at birth is not going to make a kid think a crap dad was really caring nor is it going to make a kid think that the dad who has loved and supported him wonderfully didn't really care about him because he wasn't at the birth.  "Yeah, I have a great dad, but he doesn't really care about me because he was off wining the Fedex Cup when I was being born."???

I always have told my daughters that it isn't the wedding that matters it is the marriage.  It is really the same thing here.

It isn't being at the birth that matters, it is the parenting that follows.  Being at the birth is nice, just as a nice wedding is nice.  But I doubt there is any correlation between being at the birth and being a good parent, just as I doubt there is a correlation between the amount spent on a wedding and the success of the marriage.

And no sour grapes here, as I was at the birth of both of my kids.  But then, sadly, no one offered me several times my annual salary to miss it.

[Lihu]

Thing is unless you spend 24/7 with your wife in the days leading up to the birth you could miss all or part of it anyway. I have friends that missed the birth of their children unintentionally due to things they couldn't control. Baby comes unexpected, they are stuck on the job, travel takes longer than it should trying to get there. You have a lifetime to bond with your kids. I was born during a Super Bowl, my family jokes they had to miss it because of me. Funny thing was two years later the same thing happened with my brother, born during the SB.

You also have a lifetime to make the money you need to make all your lives successful.

[Golfingdad]

Wow, and to think many of our military men miss it for a mere couple thousand a month.

Too bad they didn't care enough about their kids.

Yes, I find that particular argument bordering on offensive - that a kid will think his dad didn't care as much about them because he wasn't there at the birth.  Being there at birth is not going to make a kid think a crap dad was really caring nor is it going to make a kid think that the dad who has loved and supported him wonderfully didn't really care about him because he wasn't at the birth.  "Yeah, I have a great dad, but he doesn't really care about me because he was off wining the Fedex Cup when I was being born."???

I always have told my daughters that it isn't the wedding that matters it is the marriage.  It is really the same thing here.

It isn't being at the birth that matters, it is the parenting that follows.  Being at the birth is nice, just as a nice wedding is nice.  But I doubt there is any correlation between being at the birth and being a good parent, just as I doubt there is a correlation between the amount spent on a wedding and the success of the marriage.

And no sour grapes here, as I was at the birth of both of my kids.  But then, sadly, no one offered me several times my annual salary to miss it.

Good post.  However, I think that your opinion about the correlation between the wedding costs and the marriage might be slightly clouded since, with daughters, its your own money you're talking about??

[mvmac]

To flip it around, one could argue that the child is important enough that you would miss it's birth to provide income to support the child and your family for many years ahead.

Agree with that....College is expensive, to have that taken care and ensure my wife and kid have a comfortable lifestyle would be worth it to me to miss the birth.

[MacDutch]

I was there, now 24 years later the s.o.b. Doesn't even want to caddy me :-( only laughs when I ask and goes to battingpractise Take the money and run. :-D

[billchao]

I spoke with my wife and she agrees with me. For something like 10x my current salary (I assigned this figure based off of Horschel's career earnings / # of years on the PGA Tour), it would be irresponsible of me to pass that up. We would be able to pay off our debts and buy a house, thus providing our kids a better life. [quote name="Lihu" url="/t/77190/you-vote-birth-of-child-or-big-payday/30#post_1055397"] You also have a lifetime to make the money you need to make all your lives successful. [/quote]The problem with that is, not everyone makes a like amount of money. Some people need to work multiple jobs to make a decent living. Time spent working is time away from the family. There's too much grey area to make generalizations here.