2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

[nevets88]

Good recap of USO:

https://nolayingup.com/2018/06/17/nlu-podcast-episode-148-us-open-recap/

[nevets88]

What a troll title.

Brooks Koepka's U.S. Open win proves that golfers are athletes too

http://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/23825741/us-open-2018-brooks-koepka-looked-athlete-golfer-winning-shinnecock-hills

[rehmwa]

9 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

Brooks Koepka's U.S. Open win proves that golfers are athletes too

 

I'll bite - it's a false conclusion anyway.  Brooks is fit.  But that just means it improves his performance as a golfer.  Golfing itself doesn't make an athlete by any means....but being athletic will improve performance in any endeavor and is worth pursuing regardless of what activities one participates in.

One simply counters this article with a picture of Patrick Reed and Beef.

Edited June 18, 2018 by rehmwa

[nevets88]

Interesting perspective from one volunteer's experience:

 

[Big C]

38 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

What a troll title.

Brooks Koepka's U.S. Open win proves that golfers are athletes too

http://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/23825741/us-open-2018-brooks-koepka-looked-athlete-golfer-winning-shinnecock-hills

The actual substance of the article is no better. 

"He cut a muscular path to a second major championship in a week when golf desperately needed that visual."

Thanks Ian O'Connor - I think I need a shower after reading this article.

[Golfingdad]

3 hours ago, Big C said:

If I recall correctly @Golfingdad and @allenc played an Amateur event at Pelican hill where one of the holes was cut on an almost impossible slope. Putts hit straight up the hill were just as likely to roll back down to your feet as they were to stay up. How did you guys feel about that hole?

That is correct - good memory. :)  Pelican Hill North Course, 7th hole.  I hit two of my best shots of the day and was 8' away with a tricky right to left breaking putt for birdie.  I hit an OK putt but I missed and was now 10' below the hole for par.  I took 4 tries from the EXACT same spot until I finally sank one for a 7.  The first three either came up a roll or two short or to the side and ended up back at my feet.  All the guys in my group had basically that same putt at some point.  The first guy that made his did so after rolling it two feet past and it happened to catch the hole on the way back down.

On the 15th hole was a similar scenario where darn near anything that was more than a foot or two left of the hole would not stay on the green but rather would roll off in front of the bunker on the left 15 yards away.  I watched a guy in the group in front of us quit the tournament on that hole by just smacking his ball off into the woods as it was rolling back down to him the third or fourth time.  And I found out later that he was not the only one.

The reason why situations like that, and like the US Open gets themselves into occasionally, are bad is because it luck into play moreso than skill or execution.

[billchao]

1 hour ago, rehmwa said:

I'll bite - it's a false conclusion anyway.  Brooks is fit.  But that just means it improves his performance as a golfer.  Golfing itself doesn't make an athlete by any means....but being athletic will improve performance in any endeavor and is worth pursuing regardless of what activities one participates in.

One simply counters this article with a picture of Patrick Reed and Beef.

Being athletic and being fit aren't mutually exclusive. Everyone on tour is an athlete. They're capable of hitting a tiny ball with a 4' stick they swing in excess of 100 mph, consistently repeating that action to about a 3° margin of error.

[rehmwa]

7 minutes ago, billchao said:

Being athletic and being fit aren't mutually exclusive. Everyone on tour is an athlete. They're capable of hitting a tiny ball with a 4' stick they swing in excess of 100 mph, consistently repeating that action to about a 3° margin of error.

that is a very convenient definition of 'athletic', but that's fine as long as we have the same baseline definition - enjoy

[nevets88]

Going to just the practice round put me off for the 2026 return to Shinnecock. Time may temper my opinion, I don't remember why I didn't go to the 2004 USO. It is just not worth traveling 3 hours, each way for one day of watching golf.

https://golfweek.com/2018/06/17/logistical-issues-studied-for-2026-u-s-open-return-to-shinnecock/

Did I say the food options were terrrrrible? When you have so many amazing choices at the US Open at Flushing, the tennis tournament, it's basically like being in downtown New York, albeit higher prices because captive market, the USO is downright god awful. When I got my turkey BLT, it was basically slapped together with no condiments no nothing, the cashier asked me if anything was wrong as I looked at it sadly. I just politely said no.

[MartinCommons]

I watched someone hit the wrong ball at the U.S. Open, and--unless it was a product of misleading editing--it went unreported. It did not happen during the final round, and I don't think it was during the third round. Can anyone else confirm this?

[iacas]

9 minutes ago, MartinCommons said:

I watched someone hit the wrong ball at the U.S. Open, and--unless it was a product of misleading editing--it went unreported. It did not happen during the final round, and I don't think it was during the third round. Can anyone else confirm this?

I don't think anyone knows what you're talking about.

Can you clarify? If you watched it, what editing was done? You saw it on TV?

[Vinsk]

39 minutes ago, MartinCommons said:

I watched someone hit the wrong ball at the U.S. Open, and--unless it was a product of misleading editing--it went unreported. It did not happen during the final round, and I don't think it was during the third round. Can anyone else confirm this?

Yeah I’m curious. You don’t mean Stenson do you? 

39 minutes ago, MartinCommons said:

I watched someone hit the wrong ball at the U.S. Open, and--unless it was a product of misleading editing--it went unreported. It did not happen during the final round, and I don't think it was during the third round. Can anyone else confirm this?

Ah. There was an amateur (DeMorat)  on Thursday who hit his ball into the fescue on 14. The Marshall pointed out his ball and he hit it only to find his ball seconds later nearby. He was penalized.

Edited June 18, 2018 by Vinsk

[nevets88]

TV ratings just a little better than last year.

https://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2018/6/17/ratings-2018-us-open-roundup?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[nevets88]

Golf porn.

 

[krupa]

On 6/18/2018 at 3:26 PM, nevets88 said:

Interesting perspective from one volunteer's experience:

Very interesting.  I agree with his comment about paying people for some of those jobs. The USGA has mighty deep pockets and wouldn't be hurt by it. 

The one thing I don't understand... he was a volunteer and his volunteer credentials got him access to watch golf.  What "ticket" did he pay $175 for!?

[nevets88]

Background on the Shinnecock Nation.

Quote

The golf course logo is a different matter. It’s insulting — it’s a cartoon Indian with a big hook nose wearing a war bonnet festooned with an arrow and a putter. Like a kindergarten coloring book circa 1955. So the tribe requested a redesign or a flat-out removal. They got neither. Shinnecocks don’t have much luck when negotiating with the white man, not here, there, or anywhere. 

http://easthamptonstar.com/Opinion/2018621/Shinnecock-Curse

 

 

[iacas]

Had he not played the week before, perhaps Dustin Johnson would have had the energy (mental, mostly) to have won the U.S. Open, eh @MrGolfguy67?

(Nobody can say one way or the other, truly, but history supports this point of view slightly more as nobody's done it yet - win the week before and then win the U.S. Open.)

[3jacker]

This Koepka guy.. he's something.

If you're going to win just 1 tournament a year...  he's certainly making it count.