Jump to content
Note: This thread is 2146 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Brooks Koepka's Slam  

18 members have voted

  1. 1. If Brooks Koepka wins the first two majors of 2019, does he have a "slam"?

    • No, not a slam.
      15
    • It'd be a slam, as he'd have won four majors in a row, but it's not a grand slam because it's not four different majors.
      3
    • Yes, it's a grand slam!
      0


Recommended Posts

  • Administrator

If Brooks Koepka wins the first two majors of 2019… then he will have won four majors in a row. But… two of those majors will be the PGA Championship, as he won last year at Bellerive and would win in 2019 at Bethpage Black. So his four majors would be: U.S. Open, PGA, Masters, PGA. No British Open.

I contend that Tiger holds a Grand Slam because he:

  • Won and held all four major championship trophies.
  • Won all four in a row (i.e. there wasn't a year where they held one twice or something goofy).

Brooks wouldn't have done that - he'd be missing the British Open. So, while winning four majors in a row is a pretty remarkable achievement, because it doesn't include the British Open… I'm tempted to say it's not even a slam at all. Consider that if the next U.S. President banned golf (just go with me here) and only the British Open was played for his one and only term in office, would someone who won all four of those be considered to have won a slam? I don't think so.

So… I'm waffling between "slam but not a grand slam" and "not a slam at all." I think I'll end up on the latter, and that's the choice I made for now.

P.S. Tiger's grand slam is still a grand slam IMO even though they weren't won in a calendar year, because they were still won within a year. Hell, he added The Players Championship within that same year-long span. I think just because the year changed is too arbitrary a distinction, particularly when waiting eight months to play the fourth of the four majors is probably a lot tougher than just winning four majors April through August. Winning June through April is tougher. You have to be playing at a high level for that much longer.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

No

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I am voting not a slam.

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

(edited)

interesting twist due to the schedule change for sure.

I've gone with the three Slam descriptions as follows:

1 - Career Grand Slam - you just get all 4 eventually.

2 - Grand Slam - All 4 in the same season

3 - Tiger Grand Slam - All 4 in a row, but not the same season. 

(I understand the OP's contention the 2 vs 3 aren't meaningful enough to separate, but I still differentiate just for sake of the discussion - though in this case it doesn't change or effect my answer)

Tiger GS is the question in play - I don't consider any Slam to consist of anything but the 4 different Majors.  He doesn't have The Open in the scenario.  But he does have the first 3 legs of the 'pure' Grand Slam.  So that would exciting going into July....

 

Edited by rehmwa

Bill - 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator

Not a slam in current definition, but definitely impressive.

Scott

Titleist, Edel, Scotty Cameron Putter, Snell - AimPoint - Evolvr - MirrorVision

My Swing Thread

boogielicious - Adjective describing the perfect surf wave

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator

Not a slam although it would be very impressive and for sure deserves some higher recognition for the 4 in a row!

Bryan A
"Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same"

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator

I'm going to agree with the consensus, a Slam would consist of one each of the four majors.  And of course I recognize that any definition or a grand slam is by its very nature arbitrary.  My personal definition of a Grand Slam would be all four majors in a single calendar year, and I agree that's an arbitrary distinction, but that's the way I've always thought of it.  Anyway, that's the topic of another thread.

Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Not a slam; the golf slam is winning the 4 major tournaments - Tiger is the only won to have held those titles at the same time, using a calendar to somehow diminish that achievement seems very arbitrary to me.

If Brooks (or Spieth) wins even 1 more major then they will be the second player to win 4 majors since Tiger won his last major. (I'm using that to show how hard it is to win more than one.
FWIW here is the list of players to win more than one major in the last 10 years>
4 - Rory
3 - Spieth & Koepka
2 - Kaymer & Bubba & Phil

Players play, tough players win!

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I am just writing the first thing that came to my empty mind. I am going to say a Slam with an *.

PGA has a much deeper field than the British Open AFIK, so that would make it more impressive. Also if he wins the next two, I am betting on him winning the third one in succession and then there will be another thread trying to name 5 in a row! .....................you heard it here first..:smartass: 

Vishal S.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

"Slam" in my definition is winning all majors (i.e., four different majors) in succession.

So NO.

Don

:titleist: 910 D2, 8.5˚, Adila RIP 60 S-Flex
:titleist: 980F 15˚
:yonex: EZone Blades (3-PW) Dynamic Gold S-200
:vokey:   Vokey wedges, 52˚; 56˚; and 60˚
:scotty_cameron:  2014 Scotty Cameron Select Newport 2

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Its a slam, the Koepka slam. Never done before. In ranking its below the grand slam (1st) and the Tiger slam (2nd). But before the career grand slam (4th).

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Not a slam because of the British like OP stated. To me you gotta have all four majors at one time to have the grand slam (or win all four in a career for the career slam). 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

47 minutes ago, MacDutch said:

Its a slam, the Koepka slam. Never done before. In ranking its below the grand slam (1st) and the Tiger slam (2nd). But before the career grand slam (4th).

This is also my position.  Although it will be moot, since it is most unlikely he will do that.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

Rich - in name only

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

(edited)
1 hour ago, Yukari said:

"Slam" in my definition is winning all majors (i.e., four different majors) in succession.

So NO.

^^^ yes

I think the massively accepted criteria of the "Career Slam" meaning each of the 4 majors (not just 4 majors total) pretty much disqualifies the concept of a "Koepka Slam".

Though I do agree 4 in a row is more unique than a Career Slam...Perhaps a "Koepka Series"

I'd be pretty disappointed if this scenario happens and they bastardize the term SLAM for it.  But then I'd go on with life, sadder, with the world a lesser place and not as bright and full of hope as the day before.

Edited by rehmwa
  • Like 1
  • Thumbs Up 1

Bill - 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

(edited)

No, it would not be a grand slam if he won the next two majors. He needs to hold all 4 major trophy's at the same time.

Edited by jimnm
added grand

-Jimmy

:nike: VR_S Covert 2.0 Driver, 3W
:pxg: 0311 X (3), 0311 XF (4-6), 0311 (7-PW, 52/56/60)
:titleist: 2016 Scotty Cameron Newport Select Putter

"That tiger ain't go crazy; that tiger went tiger!" - Chris Rock

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator

Uh, guys, nobody here (including me) has pointed out the obvious.

Derp.

Thanks @tristanhilton85. :doh:

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

9 minutes ago, iacas said:

Uh, guys, nobody here (including me) has pointed out the obvious.

Derp.

Thanks @tristanhilton85. :doh:

Not 4 in a row so no slam what so ever 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • iacas changed the title to Could Brooks Win a Slam? (Update: NO, Duh!)
2 hours ago, iacas said:

Uh, guys, nobody here (including me) has pointed out the obvious.

Derp.

Thanks @tristanhilton85. :doh:

Lol!! I totally wiffed on this too. Thanks, Tristan! 

Constantine

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 2146 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • No rain while I was out (9am to 11:30am). Fairly pleasant for a late November day in the Mitten.
    • Day 56 - 2024-11-25 Did the BAD Challenge and hit a bunch more other little shots. This was one of the closer shots.
    • 70 today. The number looks good but, the course is a par 67 (5,110 yards, 64.3/115.). While the 70 took quite a few good shots to achieve, I am not counting that as shooting my age.
    • Played our town’s executive course this morning. Everything is closing but for now Huron Hills remains open. #13 is shaped like an upside down backwards L (dogleg left). Only 231 yard par 4. Dogleg has a tree guarding the corner and a sand bunker guards the green for those cutting the dogleg. Tiny green. About 10 years ago or more I would try to cut the dogleg. The hole is so short that even if one tangled with the tree or was bunkered, par was likely and birdie was still on the table. Now in my 70’s, I just hit it straight and try to wedge it close for birdie. Today I screwed up and pulled my drive. I wandered around a bit when my ball was not in the bunker. Finally located it on the approach to the green. Almost chipped in and tapped in the 2 inches for birdie. Best unintentional shot of the week. 😲
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...