LIV Golf Now Closed?

[Jeremie Boop]

11 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Well when you’re young and don’t have the usual worries most people have, and they probably never will, they have to complain about something. Millions of dollars before you’re 30-40…what to do what to do?

Obviously, you complain about the "unfair" consequences of the actions you knowingly took, which were pretty much blatantly obvious in their impending application.

[Zeph]

LIV has hit some marks. They are playing the correct sport for OWGR points. Clubs and balls and all that

Not that these guys were all that interesting in interviews before LIV, but it certainly hasn’t gotten any better.

[iacas]

 

[boogielicious]

43 minutes ago, iacas said:

 

So this is what will happen if Phil decides to not play an event, right?

[70sSanO]

21 hours ago, boogielicious said:

So this is what will happen if Phil decides to not play an event, right?

Maybe he already got the message...

https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/08/02/arcis-golf-acquires-six-arizona-golf-courses-mickelson-golf-properties/

John

[Bucki1968]

Not sure how many people watched the Shriners this week, but I see that 340,000 watched LIV golf on Sunday for the final round (YouTube). That doesn't sound like a very big number to me but maybe I'm wrong? I want to say the last LIV golf I watched was the final round in Chicago and that number was almost double. I am wondering how they expect to compete against college football and the NFL on fall week-ends?

[mcanadiens]

1 hour ago, Bucki1968 said:

Not sure how many people watched the Shriners this week, but I see that 340,000 watched LIV golf on Sunday for the final round (YouTube). That doesn't sound like a very big number to me but maybe I'm wrong? I want to say the last LIV golf I watched was the final round in Chicago and that number was almost double. I am wondering how they expect to compete against college football and the NFL on fall week-ends?

I don't think they expect to compete with football in the U.S.

Other than the running commentary on here and the occasional newspaper article, I see or hear extremely little about LIV anywhere else. I didn't even know they had an event this weekend.

[CarlSpackler]

On 10/7/2022 at 4:24 PM, boogielicious said:

So this is what will happen if Phil decides to not play an event, right?

10 lashes for any hole played double or worse… 

[Abu3baid]

Next event is in KSA

Im interested to see if anyone actually shows up to watch.  They usually will make it free and through in incentive for people to come out.. The expats will probably flock to it.  It’s in a totally different city from where I live so I won’t be going, but if it was close I probably would go watch since I have never seen pros play.

[Wally Fairway]

11 hours ago, Bucki1968 said:

Not sure how many people watched the Shriners this week, but I see that 340,000 watched LIV golf on Sunday for the final round (YouTube). That doesn't sound like a very big number to me but maybe I'm wrong? I want to say the last LIV golf I watched was the final round in Chicago and that number was almost double. I am wondering how they expect to compete against college football and the NFL on fall week-ends?

They aren't competing with anything; because when you play in Bangkok the live coverage in the US is from about 10:30 PM - 4:00 AM. I mean I love to get up early to watch the Open Championship, but I'm not staying up all night/morning watch the Bangkok member/guest shotgun starts on Youtube

[iacas]

12 hours ago, Bucki1968 said:

Not sure how many people watched the Shriners this week, but I see that 340,000 watched LIV golf on Sunday for the final round (YouTube). That doesn't sound like a very big number to me but maybe I'm wrong? I want to say the last LIV golf I watched was the final round in Chicago and that number was almost double. I am wondering how they expect to compete against college football and the NFL on fall week-ends?

Where's 340k from? Because I saw like 17k live viewers over the last five holes in the one round.

Lotta LIV Bots out there, too.

[Vinsk]

Wasn’t it during the middle of the night as far as the United States?

[Bucki1968]

LIV Golf Invitational Bangkok | Final Round | October 9 353,105 views Streamed live on Oct 8, 2022 Watch the final round of the LIV Golf Invitational Bangkok. Learn more about LIV Golf: https://www.livgolf.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LIVGolfInv/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/LIVGolfInv

I based it on the number of views steamed live. The number was lower than the 353,000 it is showing now. I assume this number is based just on youtube views?

[70sSanO]

On 10/10/2022 at 7:06 AM, Bucki1968 said:

Not sure how many people watched the Shriners this week,

This does speak volumes about how little interest there is in TV golf.  Cantlay's 72nd hole and the decisions he made seemed right out of the amateur hour; regardless of his "playing for 2nd" statement.

But there was basically no talk or discussion of the Shriner's or that debacle.  The PGA and LIV depend on viewership and if that only means majors and the playoffs, neither one can be in a great position.

I understand lacking star names, but if people would rather tune in to see Cooper Rush...

John

[iacas]

On 10/11/2022 at 8:48 AM, Bucki1968 said:

I based it on the number of views steamed live.

Like I said, something like 20,000 viewed it live. It was a bad time of night, and half of those (or more?) may have been bots.

Same is true of the current count of views: it may be bots.

It's at 360,000. Again, many of those may have been bots. 30 seconds counts as a view, so… yeah.

30 minutes ago, 70sSanO said:

The PGA and LIV depend on viewership

Says who?

[Elmer]

2 hours ago, 70sSanO said:

The PGA and LIV depend on viewership

It seems that the LIV is well funded and has money to throw around. They don't need TV viewership.  They are probably going after a TV just to compete with the PGA.
However I view LIV as the ultimate Golf Participation medal. They are awarding massive prize money to golfers who would not receive the same amount for a similar performance on the PGA tour.

[hunterdog]

Which LIV players, if any, have a realistic chance of winning a major? DJ, Cam Smith, and who else?

[70sSanO]

On 10/12/2022 at 7:57 AM, iacas said:

Says who?

You are right about LIV.  LIV doesn’t need viewership.

I would think the PGA, like every other sport, sells broadcast rights that amount to a significant amount of revenue.

My point was that even on a golf site like this, there isn’t much buzz about a number of tournaments.

I realize this is not a team fan base site, but most team boards have page after page critiquing every play, and cheering or flaming players then coaches and mgmt, during a game.

If most golf fans are watching the NFL, does it matter who goes or stays?

John

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by 70sSanO