2021 Masters

[ChetlovesMer]

1 minute ago, Double Mocha Man said:

Did you see the one yesterday? Not such a good shot, and the ball was barely covered with water. And I noticed he was wearing darker pants...

I must have missed that somehow.
I'll look it up and check it out.

[billchao]

10 hours ago, Pretzel said:

They were even 1.5-2 holes behind the 2nd to last group it seemed.

When? They were waiting for the green to clear on 15, 17, and 18 IIRC.

[ChetlovesMer]

3 minutes ago, billchao said:

When? They were waiting for the green to clear on 15, 17, and 18 IIRC.

They definitely waited for the green to clear on 15. 

But I think Xander's triple on 16 slowed them down a bit. 

[DeadMan]

I found yesterday pretty boring:

• It wasn't really that close. Once Hideki got through 12 with the lead, it was going to be really hard for someone to catch him. Xander was within 2 shots after 15 and then immediately put his ball in the water, which ended any sort of intrigue. 
• Hideki doesn't do much for me. I find him pretty boring to watch, partially because he's really slow.
• Nobody besides Rahm made any sort of charge. Nobody who was close to Hideki at the beginning of the day broke 70. 

Just a bit of a meh day. That was always in the cards unless Hideki collapsed. It's too bad because every other day was great, and it was setting up for a great leaderboard on Friday night. 

[Billy Z]

xs has got to be disappointed looking back at the triple B he had. 

[ChetlovesMer]

8 minutes ago, DeadMan said:

• Hideki doesn't do much for me. I find him pretty boring to watch, partially because he's really slow.

Hm... interesting. I actually though Xander was slower. But I don't remember either of them being too bad. I don't think either took anywhere near as long as Brian Harman. His putting routine with his caddie takes for ever.

3 minutes ago, Billy Z said:

xs has got to be disappointed looking back at the triple B he had. 

and the double on 5

[Braivo]

Every Masters after 2019 is going to feel like a letdown in comparison. Always fun to watch, but yesterday lacked some of the "magic" that is typical of a Sunday at the Masters. I think Zalatoris making a birdie at 18 on Saturday and being in the final group with Hideki would've been a LOT more fun. The thin crowds and lack of roars also takes a bit away from it. Hopefully next April it's back at 100%. 

[Vinsk]

18 minutes ago, Braivo said:

Every Masters after 2019 is going to feel like a letdown in comparison. Always fun to watch, but yesterday lacked some of the "magic" that is typical of a Sunday at the Masters. I think Zalatoris making a birdie at 18 on Saturday and being in the final group with Hideki would've been a LOT more fun. The thin crowds and lack of roars also takes a bit away from it. Hopefully next April it's back at 100%. 

Had Xander not Norman’d the 16th it would’ve been quite intense. A par would’ve had XS one back with two to go.  But when a leader has a six shot lead at any time....you’re gonna have to have some Faldo luck to overcome that.

[saevel25]

1 hour ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Hm... interesting. I actually though Xander was slower. But I don't remember either of them being too bad. I don't think either took anywhere near as long as Brian Harman. His putting routine with his caddie takes for ever.

I don't consider him slow. His swing is methodical. 

[Double Mocha Man]

18 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

I don't consider him slow. His swing is methodical. 

At the next tournament there should be a sign posted in the locker room saying, "Remember, your pace on the course is being monitored by the SandTrap.com" 😁

[switchhittingsteve]

Interesting stats on what worked at the Masters as far as putting grips.  Obviously not strokes gained putting (as Masters doesn't stat that), but probably some info in these numbers.

[saevel25]

3 minutes ago, switchhittingsteve said:

Interesting stats on what worked at the Masters as far as putting grips.  Obviously not strokes gained putting (as Masters doesn't stat that), but probably some info in these numbers.

Most of strokes gained will be tee to green. Tough to say that there is any correlation there. 

There has been compentant putters with almost every type of grip. Maybe except long putter since they took anchoring away. 

[Double Mocha Man]

8 minutes ago, switchhittingsteve said:

Interesting stats on what worked at the Masters as far as putting grips.  Obviously not strokes gained putting (as Masters doesn't stat that), but probably some info in these numbers.

Who were the woeful "longs"?  Adam Scott, Bernhardt Langer?  Who else?

[weekend hacker1]

15 hours ago, Zippo said:

Congrats to Hideki - he earned it -  but I think the big story is the young kid in his first Master's outing finishing second. Very well done.

A fine achievement, yes, but the winner is clearly the bigger story. 

[switchhittingsteve]

6 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

Who were the woeful "longs"?  Adam Scott, Bernhardt Langer?  Who else?

Here were the longs (I grouped arm lock putters like DeChambeau) in the long category.

A. Scott

B. DeChambeau

V. Singh

B. Langer

M. Kuchar

[Double Mocha Man]

1 minute ago, switchhittingsteve said:

Here were the longs (I grouped arm lock putters like DeChambeau) in the long category.

A. Scott

B. DeChambeau

V. Singh

B. Langer

M. Kuchar

Thanks!  Other than DeChambeau, all getting up there in the years...

Edited April 12, 2021 by Double Mocha Man

[switchhittingsteve]

Another way to look at it, those missing and making the cut by putting grip (excludes anyone over 60 years old to weed out old champions).  Agree with previous comment that strokes gained driving / approaches could be a factor here, but still pretty interesting.  Wish I had strokes gained putting stats to really nail this down.

[Hardspoon]

17 minutes ago, switchhittingsteve said:

Here were the longs (I grouped arm lock putters like DeChambeau) in the long category.

A. Scott

B. DeChambeau

V. Singh

B. Langer

M. Kuchar

Doesn't Zalatoris use a long putter with an arm-lock grip?