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Dustin Johnson taking a leave of absence from tour, Suspended for cocaine use

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ditchparrot19 Dedicated Member

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Wonder what the "Great One" thinks of this?

If I were him, I'd be more concerned about my daughter's lifestyle, even though she's an adult and makes her own decisions. But who knows, maybe "daddy issues" made her what she is today.

John

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Golfingdad
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I (strongly) disagree with this statement.  For the sake of this argument, lets assume that he does have a substance abuse problem; in which case, the LAST thing he should be worrying about is PR and

Ernest Jones
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So this is why Taylormade started putting lines on their driver heads? Too soon?

Golfingdad
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Also, to the general "he made a conscious decision" people ... do you know that for sure?  What's a more likely scenario for somebody's first cocaine usage: He was playing Hungry Hungy Hippos w

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By both do you mean DJ and PGA Tour?  If so, I agree, DJ would have been better off feigning an injury  rather than making the open ended statement he did.  While it's none of our business, it's foolish to think others won't speculate and the potential causes can range from depression to drug abuse to who knows what the media will come up with.

I (strongly) disagree with this statement.  For the sake of this argument, lets assume that he does have a substance abuse problem; in which case, the LAST thing he should be worrying about is PR and his "brand" and what the public thinks about him.  The first (and only) thing he should be worrying about is getting healthy.  Honesty is a very, very good thing.  "Clearing the air" so to speak about something like this is not going to hurt him one bit where it matters, its only going to help.

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ditchparrot19 Dedicated Member

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I (strongly) disagree with this statement.  For the sake of this argument, lets assume that he does have a substance abuse problem; in which case, the LAST thing he should be worrying about is PR and his "brand" and what the public thinks about him.  The first (and only) thing he should be worrying about is getting healthy.  Honesty is a very, very good thing.  "Clearing the air" so to speak about something like this is not going to hurt him one bit where it matters, its only going to help.

I think what newtogolf meant was that both of those scenarios would be poor ways to deal with the matter, with the fake injury perhaps being slightly preferable to a vague reference to a "personal problem." I don't believe he was suggesting that the phony ailment was in any way the right path to take from the get-go.

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I (strongly) disagree with this statement.  For the sake of this argument, lets assume that he does have a substance abuse problem; in which case, the LAST thing he should be worrying about is PR and his "brand" and what the public thinks about him.  The first (and only) thing he should be worrying about is getting healthy.  Honesty is a very, very good thing.  "Clearing the air" so to speak about something like this is not going to hurt him one bit where it matters, its only going to help.

Great post. Whole heartedly concur.

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I (strongly) disagree with this statement.  For the sake of this argument, lets assume that he does have a substance abuse problem; in which case, the LAST thing he should be worrying about is PR and his "brand" and what the public thinks about him.  The first (and only) thing he should be worrying about is getting healthy.  Honesty is a very, very good thing.  "Clearing the air" so to speak about something like this is not going to hurt him one bit where it matters, its only going to help.


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From an instructor's group on FB

Like alcoholism, one never beats it.  Instead, one is challenged by the addiction each and every day.

Christian

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BENtSwing Dedicated Member

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Originally Posted by mvmac

From an instructor's group on FB

Like alcoholism, one never beats it.  Instead, one is challenged by the addiction each and every day.

Sad, but true. I have many friends going through similar things...hard to understand from an "outsider's" point of view, but it IS a disease. It's a disease that never, "goes away," but it IS controllable with the proper help. Sounds like he's moving in the right direction. Pretty crazy that he was able to not only function, but play at a high level. Imagine if he wasn't battling addiction this whole time...scary.

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I (strongly) disagree with this statement.  For the sake of this argument, lets assume that he does have a substance abuse problem; in which case, the LAST thing he should be worrying about is PR and his "brand" and what the public thinks about him.  The first (and only) thing he should be worrying about is getting healthy.  Honesty is a very, very good thing.  "Clearing the air" so to speak about something like this is not going to hurt him one bit where it matters, its only going to help.

I too would prefer to hear honesty but the message from DJ was at best ambiguous and left too much room for speculation.  Most sites are reporting that he's battling a cocaine addiction, which is pretty serious, if it's true.

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Jeremie Boop Super Member

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You don't "beat" addiction, you live with it.

It drives me nuts when people say stuff like "you can beat this" because the best you can do is learn to live with your addiction and make decisions that keep you from relapsing.

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Abu3baid Great Member

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You don't "beat" addiction, you live with it. It drives me nuts when people say stuff like "you can beat this" because the best you can do is learn to live with your addiction and make decisions that keep you from relapsing.

I don't think you should let that sort of play on words drive you nuts.. If you live with it and never relapse you have beaten your addiction, if you relapse you have not beaten your addiction.. Same thing!

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Well when Matt Every got busted for pot, they just said they suspended him for "conduct unbecoming of a professional", according to Golf Channel's Rex Hoggard.

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/speculation-will-lead-scrutiny-djs-leave/

Well, at least it wasn't antler spray

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Johnson was involved in a burglary in 2001.  Even though he was young, that still, in my opinion, shows questionable decision making.  With regard to the earlier comments about Taylormade, they knew about that going in.  Just another questionable business decision by them.

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I don't think you should let that sort of play on words drive you nuts..

If you live with it and never relapse you have beaten your addiction, if you relapse you have not beaten your addiction.. Same thing!

I don't agree with that statement, but no point in arguing over it regardless. My point was more that the person said "he beat it before he can beat it again", which means he didn't beat it if he relapsed...

Your scenario of them never relapsing is more something I could deal with someone saying the "beat it", but to truly "beat it" would mean you could partake of whatever you were addicted to without falling into excess and/or making it a habit. For example, an alcoholic could be said to have "beaten" their addiction if they are able to have one drink and stop occasionally, but they are still an alcoholic. Regardless, that's just my point of view, doesn't mean it's the right one of course.

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Grndslmhttr3 Great Member

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Johnson was involved in a burglary in 2001.  Even though he was young, that still, in my opinion, shows questionable decision making.

yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion, man

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I don't agree with that statement, but no point in arguing over it regardless. My point was more that the person said "he beat it before he can beat it again", which means he didn't beat it if he relapsed... Your scenario of them never relapsing is more something I could deal with someone saying the "beat it", but to truly "beat it" would mean you could partake of whatever you were addicted to without falling into excess and/or making it a habit. For example, an alcoholic could be said to have "beaten" their addiction if they are able to have one drink and stop occasionally, but they are still an alcoholic. Regardless, that's just my point of view, doesn't mean it's the right one of course.

Sorry, I didn't see that you were commenting on that specific statement, "that he beat it edited an he will beat it again". In that case I agree of course that he didn't beat it the first time.. That makes sense! Your opinion is yours and it is never right or wrong, it is based on beliefs and current information you may or may not have, so don't worry about it! My point is that I Just didn't want a post driving you nuts that's all :)

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