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Who do you want to see as our next President?  

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  1. 1. Who will you vote for as our next President?

    • Hillary Clinton (D)
      28
    • Bernie Sanders (D)
      16
    • Donald Trump (R)
      32
    • Ted Cruz (R)
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Hillary was handed the nomination, her only real competition was an admitted democratic socialist.  If Biden had run or any other real democrat she'd be lagging in the polls.  

Let's see how presidential she looks when Cruz or Trump is across from her, she's known to lose her cool on more than one occasion.    

I did not say she looked cool; I said she looked presidential, and it was sad that she sounded more like a president than the other guys who are locked in an MMA fight. I could even take her voice today as I worked - that was surprising.

Oh, Trump will do his sarcastic putdowns -- she is low energy, Bill was an embarrassment, she belongs in a prison, she was the worst sec of state, she killed Vince Foster,  she took money from the banks, etc. Of course, wasn't it Trump  who said "if someone paid me $250k to talk, I would show up." etc. His putdowns will work for the voters who are voting for him, and not the other way around.

It's not as if I like Hillary. I imagine that I could not take working for her. The Prez election always seems a choice between the lesser evil, as seen by an individual. I certainly did not want the GOP to control Congress and the Executive Branch ... that would prove to be a bigger disaster than what we have now. But on the other hand, if they were in control, they might never have control again for another decade or so...

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Man, when you see those 4 choices I just can't help thinking to myself why not extend Obama another 4 years?  :(

Well, duh, this stands to reason and is why we need Trump.  Obama caters to the Muslims at the expense of Israel and frankly, any rationality.

If you want us to be Europe in 8 years, elect Hillary.  We'll have our no-go Muslim slums, we already do in Minneapolis and Detroit.  They'll expand because they use political correctness as a weapon.  The term Islamophobia is in their manifesto, it's why CAIR exists.

We gotta have some smart people stand up to the obvious threat that is ahead.  

Shut Muslim immigration down for now, get a handle on those who are here.  We're not too far gone, Europe is, they are done as a free society because of good-intentioned idiots.

Call me a bigot, I bet there are a few in Paris and Brussels who wish someone would have stood up 20 years ago.

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Well, duh, this stands to reason and is why we need Trump.  Obama caters to the Muslims at the expense of Israel and frankly, any rationality.

If you want us to be Europe in 8 years, elect Hillary.  We'll have our no-go Muslim slums, we already do in Minneapolis and Detroit.  They'll expand because they use political correctness as a weapon.  The term Islamophobia is in their manifesto, it's why CAIR exists.

We gotta have some smart people stand up to the obvious threat that is ahead.  

Shut Muslim immigration down for now, get a handle on those who are here.  We're not too far gone, Europe is, they are done as a free society because of good-intentioned idiots.

Call me a bigot, I bet there are a few in Paris and Brussels who wish someone would have stood up 20 years ago.

There is so much wrong with this post.  Yikes.

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I am voting for Trump. Not because I think he will make a decent potus. I don't. I look at him as a new start for something better in DC politics. I have seen and had to work with what the career politicians have done the past few decades. A winning Trump sends a message to both parties that they need to make some positive changes in the way they govern America. 

The GOP establishment will lose the election if they block Trump. Then again, I think they don't mind Clinton winning since it keeps the "DC politics as usual" scenario in place. She serves her 4 years, screws up, and they run their GOP guy who wins. 

What is funny about what the GOP establishment is doing is that it's taking away the right to decide from a majority of their voters. Plus it is not consistant with their own "autopsy report" they generated to see why they lost to Obama twice. Part of that report said they needed to listen to more carefully to their voters. What they are trying to do, to my way of thinking, almost smells like communism, or at the very least, just a little pink around the edges. :whistle:

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I am voting for Trump. Not because I think he will make a decent potus. I don't. I look at him as a new start for something better in DC politics. I have seen and had to work with what the career politicians have done the past few decades. A winning Trump sends a message to both parties that they need to make some positive changes in the way they govern America. 

The GOP establishment will lose the election if they block Trump. Then again, I think they don't mind Clinton winning since it keeps the "DC politics as usual" scenario in place. She serves her 4 years, screws up, and they run their GOP guy who wins. 

What is funny about what the GOP establishment is doing is that it's taking away the right to decide from a majority of their voters. Plus it is not consistant with their own "autopsy report" they generated to see why they lost to Obama twice. Part of that report said they needed to listen to more carefully to their voters. What they are trying to do, to my way of thinking, almost smells like communism, or at the very least, just a little pink around the edges. :whistle:

I really don't get the "lets get the politicians out of Washington" argument.

Would you want to get the lawyers out of law practice?  The car mechanics out of the shop?  How about the doctors out of the hospital?

What is the difference?

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I really don't get the "lets get the politicians out of Washington" argument.

Would you want to get the lawyers out of law practice?  The car mechanics out of the shop?  How about the doctors out of the hospital?

What is the difference?

If the lawyer charged you $200 a day for the rest of your life would you think that lawyer was worth the money? If the mechanic fixed one part of your car and broke another part so you would have to go back every month would you feel it was worth the money? If a doctor fixed one ailment while causing another so you would. . .

Basically, we are paying for these politicians to act like nobility, and to be treated as "commoners". They act wealthy and elite and look down upon the middle class.

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I really don't get the "lets get the politicians out of Washington" argument.

Would you want to get the lawyers out of law practice?  The car mechanics out of the shop?  How about the doctors out of the hospital?

What is the difference?

The politicians no longer run the government for the best of the people, they do it for the best of themselves.  We want the career politicians out so the corruption at least slows down and we start to get back to the government serving the people.  

 

If the lawyer charged you $200 a day for the rest of your life would you think that lawyer was worth the money? If the mechanic fixed one part of your car and broke another part so you would have to go back every month would you feel it was worth the money? If a doctor fixed one ailment while causing another so you would. . .

Basically, we are paying for these politicians to act like nobility, and to be treated as "commoners". They act wealthy and elite and look down upon the middle class.

They look down on everyone that isn't filling their pockets with more money.  The politicians serve the 1% they always talk about wanting to screw, it's a game.  Why do you think the Democrat super delegates aren't voting for Bernie, because they know he would mess with the people they look out for.  

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I really don't get the "lets get the politicians out of Washington" argument.

Would you want to get the lawyers out of law practice?  The car mechanics out of the shop?  How about the doctors out of the hospital?

What is the difference?

The difference with all those trades you listed is that I have a choice who I want to do the work I need done. If one of them does a crappy job, I have other avenues I can take for satisfaction. Not so with today's politicians. 

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The difference with all those trades you listed is that I have a choice who I want to do the work I need done. If one of them does a crappy job, I have other avenues I can take for satisfaction. Not so with today's politicians. 

That doesn't really address my point.

You would still take your car to a mechanic. Not to a plumber.

You would still hire another lawyer, not a police officer.  

Not sure why people think its smart to have somebody without experience do a job that requires it... I wouldn't hire an engineer to fix my golf swing.  There are other politicians to vote for, like Kasich, but instead the likes of Trump and Cruz are leading...

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That doesn't really address my point.

You would still take your car to a mechanic. Not to a plumber.

You would still hire another lawyer, not a police officer.  

Not sure why people think its smart to have somebody without experience do a job that requires it... I wouldn't hire an engineer to fix my golf swing.  There are other politicians to vote for, like Kasich, but instead the likes of Trump and Cruz are leading...

 

 

That doesn't really address my point.

You would still take your car to a mechanic. Not to a plumber.

You would still hire another lawyer, not a police officer.  

Not sure why people think its smart to have somebody without experience do a job that requires it... I wouldn't hire an engineer to fix my golf swing.  There are other politicians to vote for, like Kasich, but instead the likes of Trump and Cruz are leading...

Your point is you want to keep the same type of people (mindsets) running the country who, imo are doing a poor job due to their handlers, and their own personal agendas once elected. I want something better from our elected officials. 

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Untrustworthy Clinton, Fascist Trump, Socialist Sanders, and Slimy Cruz ... Go, Kasich!

 

 

He's the least likely to win but most qualified out of who's left.  :beer:

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I am voting for Trump. Not because I think he will make a decent potus. I don't. I look at him as a new start for something better in DC politics. I have seen and had to work with what the career politicians have done the past few decades. A winning Trump sends a message to both parties that they need to make some positive changes in the way they govern America. 

The GOP establishment will lose the election if they block Trump. Then again, I think they don't mind Clinton winning since it keeps the "DC politics as usual" scenario in place. She serves her 4 years, screws up, and they run their GOP guy who wins. 

What is funny about what the GOP establishment is doing is that it's taking away the right to decide from a majority of their voters. Plus it is not consistant with their own "autopsy report" they generated to see why they lost to Obama twice. Part of that report said they needed to listen to more carefully to their voters. What they are trying to do, to my way of thinking, almost smells like communism, or at the very least, just a little pink around the edges. :whistle:

Communist? In what sense?

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Ah, yes, vote cast. I see I am not alone in my support for Trump. My guess is a lot of closet Trump supporters out there, they just don't want to deal with the harassment that comes with openly supporting him.

I doubt it. Trump supporters are very vocal and proud to be out of the political closet ;)

@iacas, where is the option to click other?

 

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Untrustworthy Clinton

 

 

People call Clinton "untrustworthy", "liar", "criminal" as if she's the only one.  As far as I can tell, those are just synonyms for "politician."

Mostly likely I'm voting Democrat because I think the Republican choices are just awful; Democratic choices are less awful.

The problems in Washington politics can't and won't be solved by the President.  Congress has a 15% approval rating but over 90% re-election rate and no term limits.  So what's the real problem here?  I have a personal policy that after a term or two, I vote against my incumbent representatives.  I don't care what party they are or who is running against them.  

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