Jump to content
IGNORED

Online lessons (Evolvr) vs In-Person coaching


Note: This thread is 2023 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Biting the bullet and getting lessons. Currently deciding between paying 50$ a month on Evolvr or paying $60/hour (most likely just 1 session a month) with a local pro. The obvious advantage of the local pro is immediate feedback to any questions and adjustments that need to be made with the golf swing. The advantage of Evolvr would be the opportunity to upload up to four videos throughout the month instead of having only one 1-hour session with the local pro. Cost wise they're roughly the same per month.

As for the credentials or actual skill of the local pro, tough to say. His credentials say he's a US PGA Professional with 20 years experience. I'm not from the United States and he is perhaps one of the better coaches available. 

Do I take the online lessons with four video uploads or the monthly 1-hour session with the pro? And yes, I'd take both if I could but I don't have the budget for that.

PS: I can't seem to sign up for an Evolvr account. Pressing the sign-up button just brings me back to the homepage. Anybody know what's up?

Link to comment
Share on other sites


What's your golfing background?  A local pro may be better initially for things like grip, alignment and setup.    Many people on this site like Evolvr and are getting good results.  

From the land of perpetual cloudiness.   I'm Denny

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Many pro's offer a taster lesson, generally 30 mins and it gives them time to go through a few pointers like the grip and posture plus a little on yhe swing to get you going. Over here we also, depending on club, have 3 levels of teaching pro's. Lowest is usually just qualified but are great for beginners (plus lots cheaper).

Ask at your club if they can give you a taster lesson.

Russ, from "sunny" Yorkshire = :-( 

In the bag: Driver: Ping G5 , Woods:Dunlop NZ9, 4 Hybrid: Tayormade Burner, 4-SW: Hippo Beast Bi-Metal , Wedges: Wilson 1200, Putter: Cleveland Smartsquare Blade, Ball: AD333

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
2 hours ago, Quietus said:

I can't seem to sign up for an Evolvr account. Pressing the sign-up button just brings me back to the homepage. Anybody know what's up?

@iacas

Bill

“By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.” - Confucius

My Swing Thread

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
2 hours ago, Quietus said:

PS: I can't seem to sign up for an Evolvr account. Pressing the sign-up button just brings me back to the homepage. Anybody know what's up?

We are switching sites. It’ll be up on Sunday @Quietus.

  • Thumbs Up 1

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Another satisfied (that's understating it) evolvr customer checking in.  I'd encourage you to give it a try.

-- Michael | My swing! 

"You think you're Jim Furyk. That's why your phone is never charged." - message from my mother

Driver:  Titleist 915D2.  4-wood:  Titleist 917F2.  Titleist TS2 19 degree hybrid.  Another hybrid in here too.  Irons 5-U, Ping G400.  Wedges negotiable (currently 54 degree Cleveland, 58 degree Titleist) Edel putter. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
6 minutes ago, azeangolf said:

Will it still offer the first month free?

It never really has. We phrased it the way we did because people thought that the first month was $40+$39, when it was just the $40 sign-up cost.

The site is online now - https://evolvr.com - and we may have a few settings to change but you can sign up now.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

56 minutes ago, iacas said:

It never really has. We phrased it the way we did because people thought that the first month was $40+$39, when it was just the $40 sign-up cost.

The site is online now - https://evolvr.com - and we may have a few settings to change but you can sign up now.

So just to clarify - if I sign up, I'd be billed $59 straight up then $49 after a month and every month after that. I could choose to cancel the subscription by the end of the first month and only end up paying the $59 right?

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Administrator

@Quietus, yes. It’s priced as cheaply as we can make it while still being a little bit profitable.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

6 hours ago, Quietus said:

So just to clarify - if I sign up, I'd be billed $59 straight up then $49 after a month and every month after that. I could choose to cancel the subscription by the end of the first month and only end up paying the $59 right?

You'd be doing yourself a disservice if you got one lesson and never used it again.

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
9 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

You'd be doing yourself a disservice if you got one lesson and never used it again.

I don’t think that’s what he’s saying.

The first month is $59. Every month after that is $49.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Does your local pro film or video his lessons? If so, then I'd say it's worth considering. I agree there is some value in immediate feedback and an "in person" look at your swing. And a good lesson with a recording that you can refer back to should give you more than enough to work on during a one month period.

That said, if you can't refer back to the key points from the lesson, that more than offsets the positives, IMO. Without any reference point, you will probably forget key elements of the lesson, which will really make it tough to practice productively. 

I'm not a customer of Evolvr, but from what I understand, their on-line lessons are pretty detailed - and of course, the ability to reference them at any time just makes practice that much more effective. 

All things being equal, I'd go with the in person lesson. But for $60/hr, my suspicion is that your pro isn't filming and editing his lessons afterward. And that would make it a non-starter for me. If my suspicion is correct, go with Evolvr.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

It's difficult to answer since nobody knows what pro you would get lessons from. If it's a good pro, hands on is certainly preferable, but if it's a bad one, Evolvr will be better for you.

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I did Evolvr for a while and improved a lot.  For me, I thought it was better than in-person lessons.  Besides the great instruction, I liked that I didn't have to schedule a lesson.  I could film and send in a video whenever it was convenient.  Sort of how they say the best diet for you is the one you stick to, this made it much easier for me to keep up.  I also liked that it got me into using video to analyze my swing. 

I only stopped because I had kids and ended up playing much less frequently.  Now that I'm playing more again, I've been thinking of re-joining.    

Dan

:tmade: R11s 10.5*, Adila RIP Phenom 60g Stiff
:ping: G20 3W
:callaway: Diablo 3H
:ping:
i20 4-U, KBS Tour Stiff
:vokey: Vokey SM4 54.14 
:vokey: Vokey :) 58.11

:scotty_cameron: Newport 2
:sunmountain: Four 5

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

6 hours ago, iacas said:

I don’t think that’s what he’s saying.

The first month is $59. Every month after that is $49.

@iacas does it matter if I've had an account previously or not when activating an account on this new site?

Christian

:tmade::titleist:  :leupold:  :aimpoint: :gamegolf:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 2023 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Posts

    • I did read the fine print tonight. It said replace with “similar features & function”.  8 yeas ago my purchase had features that today are available on the lower end models and the current version of my model has more “bells & whistles” than what I got 8 years ago.  So I am thinking they honored the agreement and I can’t argue the offer. since getting a credit for the full purchase price all I am really out over the past 8 years was the cost of the extended warranty, which was less than a low end  treadmill would have cost me. now the question is which model to replace with.  I’ll stay with Nordic Track or I forfeit the $1,463 credit so I will get Nordic Track.  And they honored the warranty and were not hard to work with which is a plus.
    • Generally speaking, extended warranties are a terrible deal and should almost always be avoided. They are a huge profit center for the companies that offer them, which should tell you almost everything you need to know about how much value most consumers get when purchasing them.  This is correct, and the old adage applies - only buy insurance when you can't afford the loss. This usually doesn't apply to most consumer goods.  To your second question, no I don't believe the offer is fair. They are replacing it, but it is not being replaced at "no cost to you". Since the amount being disputed (over $500) is non-trivial, I would probably push the issue. Don't waste your time on the phone with a customer service agent or a supervisor. They have probably given you all they have the authority to do. Rather, I would look at the terms of your agreement and specifically legal disputes. The odds are you probably agreed to binding arbitration in the event of a dispute. The agreement will outline what steps need to be followed, but it will probably look something like this.  1. Mail the Nordic Track legal department outlining your dispute and indicate you are not satisfied with the resolution offered.  2. Open up a case with the AAA (American Arbitration Association), along with the required documentation. 3. Wait about 4-5 weeks for a case to be opened - at which point someone from Nordic Track's legal department will offer to give you the new model at no cost to you.  They certainly don't want to spend the time and energy to fight you over $500. 4. Enjoy your new Nordic Track at no cost to you. I recently entered binding arbitration against a fairly large and well known company that screwed me over and refused to make it right. In my demand letter, I made a pretty sizeable request that included compensation for my time and frustration. Once it hit their legal department, they cut me a check - no questions asked. It was far cheaper to settle with me than to send their legal team to defend them in the arbitration.
    • I never thought of looking at it on multiple purchases like you said.  Yes, the extended may help me on 1 or 2 items but not the other 5 or 6.
    • Day 84 - Forgot to post yesterday, but I did some more chipping/pitching.    Back/neck were feeling better today, so I did a much overdue Stack session. 
    • Wordle 1,013 4/6 ⬛⬛🟩🟨⬛ 🟩⬛🟩⬛🟨 🟩🟩🟩⬛⬛ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...