2013 Tour Championship Discussion Thread

[iacas]

Have at it, boys. :)

Who wins the tournament? Who wins the FECC?

[Kieran123]

Rank This Week	Rank Last Week	Player	Events	Points	# of Wins	# of Top 10's	Points behind Lead	Reset Points
1	2	Tiger Woods	15	4,352	5	8		2,500
2	1	Henrik Stenson	17	4,229	1	7	123	2,250
3	3	Adam Scott	15	4,122	2	6	230	2,000
4	27	Zach Johnson	23	3,843	1	7	509	1,800
5	4	Matt Kuchar	22	3,330	2	8	1,022	1,600
6	8	Steve Stricker	12	3,180	0	7	1,172	1,400
7	5	Graham DeLaet	25	3,011	0	7	1,341	1,200
8	6	Phil Mickelson	20	2,939	2	7	1,413	1,000
9	7	Justin Rose	16	2,842	1	6	1,510	800
10	9	Brandt Snedeker	22	2,726	2	9	1,626	600
11	15	Jim Furyk	21	2,718	0	7	1,634	480
12	34	Nick Watney	25	2,693	0	4	1,659	460
13	10	Jordan Spieth	22	2,519	1	8	1,833	440
14	12	Jason Day	20	2,347	0	7	2,005	420
15	18	Hunter Mahan	24	2,164	0	5	2,188	400
16	11	Keegan Bradley	24	2,138	0	7	2,214	380
17	14	Gary Woodland	25	2,026	1	2	2,326	360
18	17	Bill Haas	24	1,923	1	9	2,429	340
19	16	Kevin Streelman	24	1,895	1	5	2,457	320
20	13	Jason Dufner	21	1,861	1	4	2,491	310
21	20	Webb Simpson	24	1,758	0	4	2,594	300
22	22	Billy Horschel	25	1,746	1	7	2,606	290
23	29	Charl Schwartzel	18	1,719	0	5	2,633	280
24	25	Roberto Castro	28	1,678	0	3	2,674	270
25	24	Sergio Garcia	16	1,664	0	5	2,688	260
26	19	Boo Weekley	26	1,640	1	4	2,712	250
27	26	Brendon de Jonge	29	1,634	0	4	2,718	240
28	21	D.A. Points	27	1,564	1	3	2,788	230
29	54	Luke Donald	16	1,555	0	5	2,797	220
30	23	Dustin Johnson	21	1,468	1	5	2,884	210

Points table for reference.

I will always go for Tiger - but wouldn't mind seeing Stenson or Scott do it - especially Scott, with the presidents cup coming up....

[TourSpoon]

Stenson takes all.

[Keith White]

Stensens on fire and Tigers flame has dimmed through the season, I really think the shot off the stick into water and penalty at Augusta crushed him early on.  He was on form and in the mix until that awful bad luck and hasn't seemed the same since all season. Dont you just love the way Stenson fires his swing through the ball, amazing !  Watch out for Scotty, he's full of confidence and due another big weekend.  Sneaky bet, back to back from Zac, somebody has to make history and do it sometime and he's red hot off the back of a solid win and a brilliant season.

[Golfingdad]

Just a quick refresher (but mainly just saying this out loud for myself because I'm just learning it and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong) ...

1.  All of the Top 5 control their own destiny.  If Woods, Stenson, AS, Zach, or Kuch win the tournament, they also win the Cup, regardless of what happens behind them.

2.  Everybody in the field, including Dustin Johnson (30), has a theoretical chance at winning the cup.

3.  Steve Stricker (6) is the only other person (besides the top 5 already listed) who has a chance to win the cup WITHOUT winning the tournament.

A lot of exciting possibilities here, but my favorite is that somebody like Nick Watney - who has had a mediocre season with no wins and just a handful of top 5's, including last weekends runner up finish - could continue playing this weekend like he played yesterday and with a little lot of help, he could actually win the Cup.  That would be awesome!

But I'll be rooting for Stricker.  Dude devotes most of his year to family and only plays in something like 10 tournaments, yet still plays well enough to be in this position.

Also rooting for Zach for similar reasons.  He missed the first playoff tournament because of his brothers wedding.

I like the guys with perspective, and the ones who are grounded.

[boogielicious]

Woods wins the cup, Rose wins the tournament.

[jamo]

Woods wins the cup, Rose wins the tournament.

That would be a pretty tough outcome though. You'd need Rose to win (obviously), and then Tiger would have to finish second or third: http://www.pgatour.com/news/2013/09/16/scenarios--what-the-final-30-need-to-win-the-fedexcup.html

[boogielicious]

And why is this a tough outcome to achieve as compared to others?

[jamo]

And why is this a tough outcome to achieve as compared to others?

Just saying, there's a better chance that Tiger finishes somewhere between 4th-30th than exactly 2nd or 3rd. (Not that it really matters. I mainly wanted a reason to post that link. ;-))

[Slice of Life]

Kuchar wins both.

[phan52]

I would love to see Jordan Spieth pull it off, but I think he is too far back. I'm going with Stenson because of his accuracy off the tee and his GIR.

[RonTheSavage]

Im going with Tiger for both!

[tmac20]

Just a quick refresher (but mainly just saying this out loud for myself because I'm just learning it and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong) ... 1.  All of the Top 5 control their own destiny.  If Woods, Stenson, AS, Zach, or Kuch win the tournament, they also win the Cup, regardless of what happens behind them. 2.  Everybody in the field, including Dustin Johnson (30), has a theoretical chance at winning the cup. 3.  Steve Stricker (6) is the only other person (besides the top 5 already listed) who has a chance to win the cup WITHOUT winning the tournament. A lot of exciting possibilities here, but my favorite is that somebody like Nick Watney - who has had a mediocre season with no wins and just a handful of top 5's, including last weekends runner up finish - could continue playing this weekend like he played yesterday and with a [S]little[/S]  lot of help, he could actually win the Cup.  That would be awesome! But I'll be rooting for Stricker.  Dude devotes most of his year to family and only plays in something like 10 tournaments, yet still plays well enough to be in this position. Also rooting for Zach for similar reasons.  He missed the first playoff tournament because of his brothers wedding. I like the guys with perspective, and the ones who are grounded.

Just a quick correction on 3. Steve Stricker is the only player with a chance of winning the FedEx Cup without ANY tournament wins over the entire season. If he finishes solo 2nd, Woods finishes 10th or worse, Stenson finishes 5th or worse, Scott finishes 4th or worse, and Z. Johnson finishes 3rd or worse, he wins the FedEx Cup with 0 wins in the 2013 season.

[Cracker24]

Stensens on fire and Tigers flame has dimmed through the season, I really think the shot off the stick into water and penalty at Augusta crushed him early on.  He was on form and in the mix until that awful bad luck and hasn't seemed the same since all season. Dont you just love the way Stenson fires his swing through the ball, amazing !  Watch out for Scotty, he's full of confidence and due another big weekend.  Sneaky bet, back to back from Zac, somebody has to make history and do it sometime and he's red hot off the back of a solid win and a brilliant season.

Stenson's on fire huh? Let's wait and see how the driver's going first.

Not really an issue for these guys with the equipment manufacturers they have at their disposal. But it certainly seems he isn't in love with the big stick at the moment.

As for the winner, hard to look past Tiger, however recent history from the Tour Championship suggests that someone from the middle of the pack is going to pop up and steal it from the guys who have been up there all season. Will be interesting regardless.

[joekelly]

Stenson gets fined a goodly sum of money for that rude outburst of anger that all could see. Naughty boy! Next time retreat to the 'Porta-Potty' to bust your club.

[k-troop]

Tiger probably wins the tournament, but definitely the Cup. He's led the points for most of the season. He's won all of the biggest events this year that weren't majors. And he has the most scenarios in his favor (ie he can win under more permutations by finishing 2nd, 3rd, etc.) Sure he hasn't won in a while (I mean it's been WEEKS since he's won) but it's not like he's been completely out of any tournament.

[tmac20]

If Steve Stricker ends up winning the FedEx Cup without a win this year, the trophy should be thrown in a tub of hydrofluoric acid.

[Infamous 273]

Stricker is a boss. 12 events, sixth overall. I'd love to see Stenson take it fwiw.