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In August I was given a box of Titliest Velocity balls.  I played 3 rounds with them and shot 85, 88, and 87.  The previous rounds played were played with Wilson Duo Soft and never broke 90.  The rounds since have been played with Wilson Duo Soft and have not broken 90.  Anyone else ever experience anything like this?  


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At your level, not much of a difference, no.

As you get better, more and more so.

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Its funny that if you think 'I putt so much better with a Pro V', that you'll actually putt better with a Pro V. Its almost like a golfing placebo affect.


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1 hour ago, Osnola said:

In August I was given a box of Titliest Velocity balls.  I played 3 rounds with them and shot 85, 88, and 87.  The previous rounds played were played with Wilson Duo Soft and never broke 90.  The rounds since have been played with Wilson Duo Soft and have not broken 90.  Anyone else ever experience anything like this?  

 

1 hour ago, iacas said:

At your level, not much of a difference, no.

As you get better, more and more so.


And certainly not 6 strokes worth...at any level.

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29 minutes ago, Papa Steve 55 said:

Its funny that if you think 'I putt so much better with a Pro V', that you'll actually putt better with a Pro V. Its almost like a golfing placebo affect.

I think this idea has some validity. If you like what you are playing, for whatever reason, you may play better with it. For me, my ball preference is primarily based upon how it feels when I hit it. As to the OP's point, I tried a dozen of the Wilson Duo SPIN balls. The packaging advertised them as the "softest multi-layer ball available". 

And they are soft. The problem is the damned things wouldn't go anywhere! I'd pull the club for the yardage and conditions, the shot would take off just fine, then the ball would fall out of the sky like a shot duck! I say just play the ball you like for the feel and how it behaves, and if it fits your budget.

I wish the TM TP5 fit my budget, but they are as expensive as Pro-V's. I found a brand new one last year, and it is the best feeling, most responsive ball I've played in a long time. Ever notice how so many of the higher priced balls you find out there are in really good condition? 

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The Duo-Softs have a propensity for going sideways...if you give them a good old whack.  Maybe they mash too much...don't know but it seems likely.  

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My suggestion: Find a quality 3 piece ball and buy a several boxes of them on sale. Check for Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales.

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Callaway Chromesoft 

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Maybe a hard ball suits better with your game. I played with that ball and it goes a mile! If you can manage your touch around the green it can benefit your scores. 

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16 hours ago, iacas said:

At your level, not much of a difference, no.

As you get better, more and more so.

I dont understand this answer.  When I started back, a friend suggested 'Noodles' and those are a decent ball, goes straight, and priced where a 20+ could afford to lose several during a round.  I was needing more tho as they have little touch on second shots or close chipping.  A good ball for the $$

I found a 'Supersoft' one day and played it 16 holes and was amazed at the difference even a mid-high handicapper could experience.  I was immediately sold on this (actually several year old model ball that is not the latest greatest $40 ball) ball with theaction it produced;  15-20 yards off the tee straight, second shot feel that stuck, and even a softer putt.  I am still using this intermediately priced ball, I just don't see an improvement with the pro-v or the TM, I can't keep them from tailing off a little on tee shots.  Now some of this could be improvement from time on course but I could immediately feel a difference.

I'm not improving so much with the numbers yet but I am shaping my game to a round with potential (and by that I mean lower mid 80s), or a round that strays if penalties come into play.  And the ball had significant input for this mid-capper, one that is at that break 90 level.


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14 hours ago, Buckeyebowman said:

I think this idea has some validity. If you like what you are playing, for whatever reason, you may play better with it. For me, my ball preference is primarily based upon how it feels when I hit it. As to the OP's point, I tried a dozen of the Wilson Duo SPIN balls. The packaging advertised them as the "softest multi-layer ball available". 

And they are soft. The problem is the damned things wouldn't go anywhere! I'd pull the club for the yardage and conditions, the shot would take off just fine, then the ball would fall out of the sky like a shot duck! I say just play the ball you like for the feel and how it behaves, and if it fits your budget.

I wish the TM TP5 fit my budget, but they are as expensive as Pro-V's. I found a brand new one last year, and it is the best feeling, most responsive ball I've played in a long time. Ever notice how so many of the higher priced balls you find out there are in really good condition? 

I agree.  I used to play Pro V1x but have switched to TP5x a few years ago and have not gone back.  

As to the OP's point, I tend to agree with @Papa Steve 55 being a placebo effect.  I think it has more to do with the confidence you have, which leads to a better swing/results.

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3 hours ago, burr said:

I dont understand this answer.

Why?

A 20 handicapper will not notice as much of a difference in the ball as a 2 handicapper, nor will the 20 be able to take advantage of what a better ball offers nearly as much.

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16 hours ago, DrvFrShow said:

My suggestion: Find a quality 3 piece ball and buy a several boxes of them on sale. Check for Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales.

Srixon Z-Star

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Titleist Velocity

Callaway Chromesoft 

Is the Velocity even a 3 piece ball? Whatever it is, it's massively overpriced.

Edit: I guess I'm trying to say that the Velocity is a crap ball.

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1 hour ago, colin007 said:

Is the Velocity even a 3 piece ball? Whatever it is, it's massively overpriced.

Edit: I guess I'm trying to say that the Velocity is a crap ball.

 

I do agree that the Velocity is probably overpriced.  Not sure I will go back to it but need to find a ball that is a bit firmer.  I seemed to hit it ok but didn’t like the way it felt on full shots off the irons. I don’t loose a lot of balls (2 or 3 a round) but just don’t want to spend $45 for a dozen balls.  I’m gonna be 71 in a couple of months but still hit the ball decent. If I practiced and played more could probably get better. I play once a week and maybe go to the range 1 time a month. It’s not that I don’t want to play or practice more it is just that available course is not real close ...not excuse, just fact. 


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13 minutes ago, Osnola said:

I do agree that the Velocity is probably overpriced.  Not sure I will go back to it but need to find a ball that is a bit firmer.  I seemed to hit it ok but didn’t like the way it felt on full shots off the irons. I don’t loose a lot of balls (2 or 3 a round) but just don’t want to spend $45 for a dozen balls.  I’m gonna be 71 in a couple of months but still hit the ball decent. If I practiced and played more could probably get better. I play once a week and maybe go to the range 1 time a month. It’s not that I don’t want to play or practice more it is just that available course is not real close ...not excuse, just fact. 

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Back when I first started golf, I took lessons at a resort course and they had trash bins full of lost balls. I took hundreds of them over the year that I practiced there - assorted brands/model but all in like new condition - mostly Titleist, Callaway and TM.  I have been playing with those balls since the beginning and my handicap has dropped steadily from 20+ to single digit in 3 years. I don’t think the balls were the reason for my improvements and I have yet to spend a $1 on a new ball (and I still have enough to last at least another season). That said, I think golf is also a mental game and if the ball makes you feel good about your game, then it makes a difference. 

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Knock yourself out...

https://golf-info-guide.com/golf-ball-tests-and-reviews/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt5GIjNCQ5gIVjtdkCh3IpgBNEAMYASAAEgIDvvD_BwE

http://www.golfballtest.org/

Search for chart on the Golf Ball Test website.

I won't pretend to be able to explain all the voodoo behind golf ball compression, cover, and 2, 3, 4, etc.piece balls.  Maybe you can glean something from the above sites that will give you an idea what you want to try.  But, get the cheapest one that you like the best.  Losing 2-3 balls a round is not conducive to expensive golf balls.  No one here can tell you what to use because at your level it is all personal preference.

I used to use Top Flite D2+ Feel, but I tried Srixon Soft Feel and liked them better.  I gave our sons my extra boxes Top Flites.  At my level, I could hit 1,000,000 shots and there would be no difference between the two.  The real difference is located between the ears.

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30 minutes ago, FlyingAce said:

if the ball makes you feel good about your game, then it makes a difference. 

As a mid to high handicap, I think this speaks volumes.

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