Why Aren’t More People Copying Moe Norman's Swing?

[LeanMachine]

WOW, nothing but trolls here. I was hoping to talk to other plays using the moe norman grip, not a bunch of closed minded wrist flippy pricks. You guys can peddle your 5 keys bs while I learn how to win. Bye bye bitches.

[Ernest Jones]

WOW, nothing but trolls here. I was hoping to talk to other plays using the moe norman grip, not a bunch of closed minded wrist flippy pricks. You guys can peddle your 5 keys bs while I learn how to win. Bye bye bitches.

Wrist flippy pricks? Lol. Bye, bye indeed.

[boogielicious]

WOW, nothing but trolls here. I was hoping to talk to other plays using the moe norman grip, not a bunch of closed minded wrist flippy pricks. You guys can peddle your 5 keys bs while I learn how to win. Bye bye bitches.

Most people come on this site to learn because they are not instructors or scratch golfers. You seem very closed-minded. You have an opinion, which is fine, but you're unwilling to listen to any other opinion or information. That's too bad. You can learn a lot here.

[Lihu]

WOW, nothing but trolls here. I was hoping to talk to other plays using the moe norman grip, not a bunch of closed minded wrist flippy pricks. You guys can peddle your 5 keys bs while I learn how to win. Bye bye bitches.

I'm not selling anything here. Just mentioned my experiences. Also, you're young, you can try out different swings. Plus, I'm not so sure we're the close minded people here. . .

[RussUK]

WOW, nothing but trolls here. I was hoping to talk to other plays using the moe norman grip, not a bunch of closed minded wrist flippy pricks. You guys can peddle your 5 keys bs while I learn how to win. Bye bye bitches.

Wow, mature or what!

For what its worth, i swing single axis (with a normal grip) and 5SK is just as relevant to that as it is to the conventional swing.

[billchao]

I'm not sure what happened here, @LeanMachine , but you're in North Brunswick, right? I'd be more than happy to meet you at a range and/or play a round with you and get some videos of your swing. Let's bury the hatchet, guys. :-)

[Hatchman]

[IMG ALT="Pipeline Moe Norman with numerous PGA winners."]http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/125562/[/IMG]

[Mac62]

These Moe Norman threads sure tend to bring out some.....interesting....people.

[boogielicious]

I guess my answer to the OP question is "because it was a swing that was unique to him and his body."  I don't have his body, so therefore I won't try to copy his swing.

[Hatchman]

I guess my answer to the OP question is "because it was a swing that was unique to him and his body."  I don't have his body, so therefore I won't try to copy his swing.

Good points.

[Valleygolfer]

I guess my answer to the OP question is "because it was a swing that was unique to him and his body."  I don't have his body, so therefore I won't try to copy his swing.

Moe looks like "Dorf on golf" when he's set up to swing

[Vinsk]

Golf is hard. Losing weight is hard. Becoming rich is hard (usually). There will always be people who want a shortcut to success and continue to pursue it. This is why the 3am infomercials continue. There will always be people who truly believe the email they got from a Nigerian diplomat is their ticket to wealth. So many gimmicks regarding golf are out there. Todd Graves was fascinated with Moe Norman. That's fine. But pushing Moe Norman's swing as "secret" "amazing" "easy" is just another Nigerian email.

[Hatchman]

How true. Golf is hard to me.

Re: Norman, I think most comments I've come across and either read or heard via short video were about his ball striking. Don't know how one would analyze that unorthodox swing anyway but would be interested in hearing.

[GYW]

I believe most people are afraid to be different and Moe certainly was that.  From his grip to his stance to his backswing and follow though to his mannerisms.  It could also be that most golfers today have never heard of Murray Irwin Norman.  He was humiliated in a Masters tournament simply for being different.  He went back to Canada and continued his illustrious career.  All his knowledge and wisdom went with him.  What a shame.   Today's golfer isn't willing to spend the time it takes to teach themselves how to make the ball fly and land exactly where they want it to land.  Moe did this though years of self education and millions of practice balls on the range. The golfers of yesterday couldn't afford expensive lessons from professional instructors and swing coaches and mental game coaches and what have you.  Moe taught himself.  Ben Hogan taught himself how to correct his unwanted hook simply with a slight wrist cupping in the backswing and changing his grip by 1/8 of an inch (yes, it works).  An instructor didn't help him-he did this himself.  No instructor would teach a student to swing like Moe.  Moe did what worked for and ignored others telling him "the correct way" to do things.  However, even Moe stated that he lost distance by swinging his way.  To him, accuracy was the key.  The results?   In a USA Today news article from 28 September 2004, titled, "Golf's purest striker rarely missed a fairway". "[Today's greatest golfers count their career holes in one, on a few fingers. Norman had 17 aces. He also had nine double eagles and three sanctioned scores of 59, won more than 50 tournaments, and set more than 30 course records."  Could you imagine if everyone approached golf the way Moe did?  The courses would be packed!  Anyway, thanks for listening to my two cents.

   

[boogielicious]

7 hours ago, GYW said:

I believe most people are afraid to be different and Moe certainly was that.  From his grip to his stance to his backswing and follow though to his mannerisms.  It could also be that most golfers today have never heard of Murray Irwin Norman.  He was humiliated in a Masters tournament simply for being different.  He went back to Canada and continued his illustrious career.  All his knowledge and wisdom went with him.  What a shame.   Today's golfer isn't willing to spend the time it takes to teach themselves how to make the ball fly and land exactly where they want it to land.  Moe did this though years of self education and millions of practice balls on the range. The golfers of yesterday couldn't afford expensive lessons from professional instructors and swing coaches and mental game coaches and what have you.  Moe taught himself.  Ben Hogan taught himself how to correct his unwanted hook simply with a slight wrist cupping in the backswing and changing his grip by 1/8 of an inch (yes, it works).  An instructor didn't help him-he did this himself.  No instructor would teach a student to swing like Moe.  Moe did what worked for and ignored others telling him "the correct way" to do things.  However, even Moe stated that he lost distance by swinging his way.  To him, accuracy was the key.  The results?   In a USA Today news article from 28 September 2004, titled, "Golf's purest striker rarely missed a fairway". "[Today's greatest golfers count their career holes in one, on a few fingers. Norman had 17 aces. He also had nine double eagles and three sanctioned scores of 59, won more than 50 tournaments, and set more than 30 course records."  Could you imagine if everyone approached golf the way Moe did?  The courses would be packed!  Anyway, thanks for listening to my two cents.

   

Welcome to the forum.

Moe's swing work for him. It may not work for others. There have been a few posters on this site who have tried it and it worked for them and that is cool. Each of us is built differently and to try and fit us into any specific method may not work.

I really think the lack for good, consistent instruction is really hurting the average golfer. That is why I came to this site and stayed.

[ppine]

Moe Norman is the best kept secret in golf.  He was a Canadian that slept in his car.  He wore funky clothes and sold stuff that he won in tournaments out of the back of his car.  He was kind of unusual looking with a crooked smile.  Golf sponsors gave him a hard time and didn't really give him a fair chance.

Norman was one of the best ball strikers in the history of the sport. He had a compact, reproducible swing to the extreme.  He played with the same tee for several years.  He could hit shots across bridges from more than 175 yards.  He and his swing were not sexy.  But he is probably the least appreciated and most interesting golfer in history.

[iacas]

2 hours ago, ppine said:

Moe Norman is the best kept secret in golf.  He was a Canadian that slept in his car.  He wore funky clothes and sold stuff that he won in tournaments out of the back of his car.  He was kind of unusual looking with a crooked smile.  Golf sponsors gave him a hard time and didn't really give him a fair chance.

Norman was one of the best ball strikers in the history of the sport. He had a compact, reproducible swing to the extreme.  He played with the same tee for several years.  He could hit shots across bridges from more than 175 yards.  He and his swing were not sexy.  But he is probably the least appreciated and most interesting golfer in history.

I also think a lot of what he's got going for him is myth. And I know some guys who knew him quite well. The stories are overblown.

He was good, don't get me wrong, but I don't know that he was quite as super as the legends will tell you.

Also, many don't know his younger years swing was a lot more similar to a "traditional" golf swing than his later-years "Natural Golf-inspiring" swing.

[Lihu]

Moe Norman's older man swing. Note that it's very different than when he was competing. . .

 

When he was actually competing. Looks kind of a standard swing to me.