Tiger Woods Master Catch-All Discussion

[Golfingdad]

7 hours ago, 1badbadger said:

He does have his own plane and actually used it to fly from San Diego to L.A. after missing the cut at Torrey Pines.  He had planned on flying commercial (not sure why) 

I'll take a guess.  I've had mini "win the lottery" daydreams and looked into a few things here and there that I'd try when that happened, and one thing I noticed when looking into netjets, and the like, was just how relatively short range most of those private jets are.

So my guess might be that Tiger wanted to go non stop and his plane wasn't capable of doing that.

Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go get me some powerball tickets. :P

[1badbadger]

7 hours ago, 1badbadger said:

 

He does have his own plane and actually used it to fly from San Diego to L.A. after missing the cut at Torrey Pines.  He had planned on flying commercial (not sure why) but almost missed that flight due to the airport being flooded with protesters condemning Trump for signing an executive order that bars travelers from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States.

 

16 minutes ago, Golfingdad said:

I'll take a guess.  I've had mini "win the lottery" daydreams and looked into a few things here and there that I'd try when that happened, and one thing I noticed when looking into netjets, and the like, was just how relatively short range most of those private jets are.

So my guess might be that Tiger wanted to go non stop and his plane wasn't capable of doing that.

Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go get me some powerball tickets. :P

Ha!  Pick me up a quick-pick and I'll pay you back, unless the jackpot is under $60 million...I don't bother until it hits at least that...

I still haven't heard what the reason was for taking a commercial flight.  He has a Gulfstream 550, which is supposed to have one of the longest ranges for a business-type jet, and he's flown all over the world with it, so it's a little strange.  Plus, he doesn't travel alone...he's got his posse with him, so taking his own plane seem like a no-brainer.

[jamo]

1 hour ago, Golfingdad said:

I'll take a guess.  I've had mini "win the lottery" daydreams and looked into a few things here and there that I'd try when that happened, and one thing I noticed when looking into netjets, and the like, was just how relatively short range most of those private jets are.

So my guess might be that Tiger wanted to go non stop and his plane wasn't capable of doing that.

Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go get me some powerball tickets. :P

A bit random, but I was reading recently about the trade between the Padres and Red Sox in 2006 that sent Doug Mirabelli back to Boston. It was an oral history about the day. The Red Sox were playing the Yankees at Fenway, Wakefield was pitching (the Sox only traded for Mirabelli because their existing catchers couldn't catch his knuckleball), and Mirabelli needed to get cross country in just a few hours. The Red Sox chartered a flight for him, and the pilot said something like "well we'll have to get lucky if we want to get there without stopping to re-fuel." 

And that was just San Diego to Boston, not Florida to the UAE. 

[1badbadger]

39 minutes ago, jamo said:

A bit random, but I was reading recently about the trade between the Padres and Red Sox in 2006 that sent Doug Mirabelli back to Boston. It was an oral history about the day. The Red Sox were playing the Yankees at Fenway, Wakefield was pitching (the Sox only traded for Mirabelli because their existing catchers couldn't catch his knuckleball), and Mirabelli needed to get cross country in just a few hours. The Red Sox chartered a flight for him, and the pilot said something like "well we'll have to get lucky if we want to get there without stopping to re-fuel." 

And that was just San Diego to Boston, not Florida to the UAE. 

Just for kicks I looked it up, and Tiger's jet has a range of almost 6,700 miles, so it's enough to get across the U.S., but it's about 8,500 mi from San Diego to UAE, so they would need to stop and top off the tanks somewhere.  

[Zeph]

19 hours ago, 1badbadger said:

He does have his own plane and actually used it to fly from San Diego to L.A. after missing the cut at Torrey Pines.  He had planned on flying commercial (not sure why) but almost missed that flight due to the airport being flooded with protesters condemning Trump for signing an executive order that bars travelers from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States.

So we can blame Trump for Tiger being injured again. Got it.

[ScouseJohnny]

14 hours ago, Zeph said:

So we can blame Trump for Tiger being injured again. Got it.

Hey, I'm happy to blame Trump for everything, including the milk in my tea being off this morning, but this might be a stretch, admittedly.

What wouldn't have been a stretch is a flight plan from San Diego, California, to Shannon, Ireland, for Tiger's G550. Almost 1500 miles to spare, in fact, provided it took off full. Half an hour supping a Guinness whilst the jet takes on more fuel? Sounds less stressful than a commercial flight for those (like him) who are no longer used to traveling that way, ("Now boarding Zone 2, all Zone 2 boarding pass holders please come to the gate now. Sir, are you Zone 2? Sorry, we have a lady with a stroller boarding in front of you. Now calling Zone 3.")

Edited February 7, 2017 by ScouseJohnny

[boogielicious]

ZERO, repeat ZERO politics are allowed in this forum.

[ScouseJohnny]

An oddly maudlin video - partly a promo for Dubai, partly the reflections of an injury-prone, 41 year old man, looking at a younger generation through middle-aged eyes.

The BBC rather glumly reported it, thus:

" Fourteen-time major winner Tiger Woods says he will "never feel great" again because of the number of injuries suffered during his career. "

http://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/38912329

Oh, and he's right about the cell-phones!

Edited February 8, 2017 by ScouseJohnny

[skydog]

^Well I stand corrected on some of my earlier comments. Love the honesty and un-guarded nature of Tiger in the interview. That's the guy I want to root for...guess I'll just have to ignore whatever comes out of his agent's mouth.

Thanks for sharing

 

[iacas]

Tiger will not play in the Genesis Open or Honda Classic.

He cited ongoing back spasms.

So much for four weeks out of five.

And the meter ticks markedly closer to "He's done."

http://www.tigerwoods.com/news/2017/02/10/215671374/tiger-pulls-out-of-genesis-and-honda-due-to-back-spasms/

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Tiger Woods announced Friday that due to ongoing back spasms, similar to what he experienced in Dubai, he will be unable to compete in the Genesis Open and The Honda Classic.

"My doctors have advised me not to play the next two weeks, to continue my treatment and to let my back calm down," Tiger said. "This is not what I was hoping for or expecting. I am extremely disappointed to miss the Genesis Open, a tournament that benefits my foundation, and The Honda Classic, my hometown event. I would like to thank Genesis for their support, and I know we will have an outstanding week."

Tiger is expected to travel to Los Angeles to attend and support the PGA TOUR event. His possible playing schedule after Honda will be determined at a later date after his back is reassessed.

 

I'm out. I'm now very much in the "show me something" camp. Still the GOAT in my opinion, but I'm just refusing to be strung along. We saw a mirage in the Bahamas.

[David in FL]

Crud.  I'm genuinely disappointed.

 

[NCGolfer]

12 minutes ago, iacas said:

I'm out. I'm now very much in the "show me something" camp. Still the GOAT in my opinion, but I'm just refusing to be strung along. We saw a mirage in the Bahamas.

Not quite there yet...but I'm walking out the door.  I need to see consecutive strong showings to get my full attention again.

[nevets88]

I just assume now he's not even practicing. This sucks, will just have to see, the tour moves on, sans Woods for now.

 

[Groucho Valentine]

Not the way i want to see the GOAT go out. But my instincts are telling me Tiger is done with competitive golf. 

[1badbadger]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

Tiger will not play in the Genesis Open or Honda Classic.

He cited ongoing back spasms.

So much for four weeks out of five.

And the meter ticks markedly closer to "He's done."

http://www.tigerwoods.com/news/2017/02/10/215671374/tiger-pulls-out-of-genesis-and-honda-due-to-back-spasms/

 

Has it crossed anyone else's mind that he's not really having back spasms, but is using that as an excuse or a cover-up to pull out of Dubai and these other events?  He can't say he's playing like sh*t and doesn't feel like posting anymore 77s, but if he's "injured" no one can fault him for that.

To be clear, I am actually a fan and think he is great for the sport, so I'm not a hater...just throwing out the possibility that it's not his back.  Since about Aug or Sept he has been doing some hardcore equipment testing (I know from the time he started testing until he signed with Bridgestone, they sent him between 48-60 dozen balls.  Not sure if the other manufacturers sent him just as many, but even half that would be pretty intense testing.  Not sure if he did clubs at the same time or separately, but still...) and his back held up fine as far as I know, but as soon as he plays in a tournament his back flares up?  This dude played in a U.S. Open with a broken leg...and won!  And now back spasms force him to withdraw after 1 round and his doctors have advised him not to play?  He got the go-ahead to keep playing on a broken leg, but back spasms last week have shut him down for at least a few weeks?

I'm not buying it.

[iacas]

1 minute ago, 1badbadger said:

Has it crossed anyone else's mind that he's not really having back spasms, but is using that as an excuse or a cover-up to pull out of Dubai and these other events?  He can't say he's playing like sh*t and doesn't feel like posting anymore 77s, but if he's "injured" no one can fault him for that.

I think he knows the value of playing competitive golf. And that if he could he would be.

I think it's actually back spasms.

[ScouseJohnny]

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This dude played in a U.S. Open with a broken leg...and won!  And now back spasms force him to withdraw after 1 round and his doctors have advised him not to play?  He got the go-ahead to keep playing on a broken leg, but back spasms last week have shut him down for at least a few weeks?

The "he won a major with a freakin' broken leg" thing actually gets pretty tedious. I feel sorry (in advance) for the Tiger of 2060, hitting the ceremonial drive at the Masters; some in the audience well be clamoring that he still has a chance of winning the thing - after all, he once won a major with a broken leg.

For what it's worth, he played the 2008 US Open in defiance of medical advice: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/miracle-man-how-tiger-woods-won-the-us-open-with-no-ligament-and-a-broken-leg-1-1434197

But I think there is a difference between a 32 year old athlete at the absolute pinnacle of his game gritting his teeth and playing 72 holes with a stress fracture of the tibia, and a 41 year old returning to the game after an extended lay-off as a result of back surgery and rehabilitation, and then suffering ongoing, debilitating problems with his back.

In his position, I think I'd be worrying, "Am I playing myself into a wheelchair?"

I don't doubt for one second that the reason for the withdrawals is, as stated, back pain.

 

 

Edited February 10, 2017 by ScouseJohnny

[Braivo]

2 hours ago, iacas said:

Tiger will not play in the Genesis Open or Honda Classic.

He cited ongoing back spasms.

So much for four weeks out of five.

And the meter ticks markedly closer to "He's done."

http://www.tigerwoods.com/news/2017/02/10/215671374/tiger-pulls-out-of-genesis-and-honda-due-to-back-spasms/

I'm out. I'm now very much in the "show me something" camp. Still the GOAT in my opinion, but I'm just refusing to be strung along. We saw a mirage in the Bahamas.

I will continue to be strung along. Every time he tees it up in a competitive event I will gain hope that he has a chance. Unfortunately, I don't think he has truly cleared himself of the mental demons that started the slide (I do believe that mental shortcomings can manifest as physical injuries/illness).