2016 U.S. Open at Oakmont Discussion Thread

[Aguirre]

5 hours ago, iacas said:

We have slightly different definitions on "significantly downhill." It's about 14' downhill. 5' of that comes from the tee box - the road just in front of it is 5' below the tee, which is built up a bit.

14' with a ball coming in at about 45° is all of 14' of extra carry distance.

But yes, a medium sized draw will bounce onto the green.

How do you take a quarter of a stroke? You didn't say they're 2.75 under par…

The clubhouse was built by that guy, cool! Nifty to know. I thought you were saying the course was designed by that guy. Cuz the Fownes (Henry and his son William IIRC) designed it, I believe.

Well, I haven't played Oakmont a lot (walked it as well in Opens) but I would have guessed it's more like 30' downhill.  Maybe there's some kind of optical illusion about the height there.

I'm thinking its high score isn't due to many double bogeys, but rather the lack of birdies.  

[Wally Fairway]

Tee times are posted - http://www.usopen.com/en_US/scoring/groupings.html

Favorites & Interesting pairings

8: 35 Spieth, DeChambeau, ZJ 
8:24 Rory, Rickie, Willet
2:20 Day, Oosty, Scott
1:36 DJ, Sergio, Matsuyama
1:14 80witch, Cam Smith, Derek Bard (a)

[boogielicious]

8 hours ago, Scotsclaff said:

Nice way to watch it,beware of the Guiness leprichaun.

Guinness has two 'n's! 

I do want the winner to be only at par. These guys are so much better than us. A hard course makes them appear normal.

[Club Rat]

Full list of pairs - Here are the full groupings and tee times for Thursday and Friday at the 2016 U.S. Open (all times Eastern):

Thursday (No. 1)Friday (No. 10)Players

6:45 a.m.12:30 p.m.Denny McCarthy, Aron Price, Mikael Lundberg

6:56 a.m.12:41 p.m.Nick Hardy (a), TBD, Tom Hoge

7:07 a.m.12:52 p.m.Patrick Rodgers, Sam Horsfield (a), Andrew Johnston

7:18 a.m.1:03 p.m.Justin Hicks, Soren Hansen, Jason Allred

7:29 a.m.1:14 p.m.Romain Wattel, Sung Kang, Yusaku Miyazato

7:40 a.m.1:25 p.m.Bernd Wiesberger, Matteo Manassero, Daniel Berger

7:51 a.m.1:36 p.m.Matt Kuchar, Bubba Watson, Patrick Reed

8:02 a.m.1:47 p.m.Rafa Cabrera Bello, J.B. Holmes, Kevin Chappell

8:13 a.m.1:58 p.m.Matthew Fitzpatrick, Danny Lee, Byeong Hun An

8:24 a.m.2:09 p.m.Rory McIlroy, Danny Willett, Rickie Fowler

8:35 a.m.2:20 p.m.Chris Kirk, Emiliano Grillo, Shane Lowry

8:46 a.m.2:31 p.m.Mike Miller, Matthew Borchert, Charlie Danielson (a)

8:57 a.m.2:42 p.m.Chase Parker, Ryan Stachler (a), Patrick Wilkes-Krier

Thursday (No. 10)Friday (No. 1)Players

6:45 a.m.12:30 p.m.Andres Gonzales, Scottie Scheffler (a), Derek Fathauer

6:56 a.m.12:41 p.m.Andrew Landry, Matthew Baldwin, D.J. Trahan

7:07 a.m.12:52 p.m.Rob Oppenheim, Dicky Pride, Wes Short Jr.

7:18 a.m.1:03 p.m.Patton Kizzire, Yuta Ikeda, David Lingmerth

7:29 a.m.1:14 p.m.Hideto Tanihara, Gregory Bourdy, Kevin Streelman

7:40 a.m.1:25 p.m.Jon Rahm (a), James Hahn, Robert Streb

7:51 a.m.1:36 p.m.Thomas Aiken, Jeff Maggert, David Toms

8:02 a.m.1:47 p.m.Marc Leishman, Jimmy Walker, Paul Casey

8:13 a.m.1:58 p.m.Lee Westwood, Luke Donald, Martin Kaymer

8:24 a.m.2:09 p.m.Russell Knox, Harris English, Jason Dufner

8:35 a.m.2:20 p.m.Zach Johnson, Bryson DeChambeau, Jordan Spieth

8:46 a.m.2:31 p.m.TBD, Gregor Main, Mark Anguiano

8:57 a.m.2:42 p.m.Kyle Mueller (a), Derek Change, Richie Schembechler

Thursday (No. 1)Friday (No. 10)Players

12:30 p.m.6:45 a.m.Peter Hanson, Tim Wilkinson, Thitiphun Chuayprakong

12:41 p.m.6:56 a.m.Billy Hurley III, Jeev Milkha Singh, J.J. Henry

12:52 p.m.7:07 a.m.Brendan Steele, Soren Kjeldsen, Jaco Van Zyl

1:03 p.m.7:18 a.m.Anirban Lahiri, Scott Piercy, Jamie Donaldson

1:14 p.m.7:29 a.m.Spencer Levin, Toru Taniguchi, Carlos Ortiz

1:25 p.m.7:40 a.m.Ryan Moore, Andrew Sullivan, Charley Hoffman

1:36 p.m.7:51 a.m.Hideki Matsuyama, Sergio Garcia, Dustin Johnson

1:47 p.m.8:02 a.m.Webb Simpson, Graeme McDowell, Geoff Ogilvy

1:58 p.m.8:13 a.m.Ernie Els, Jim Furyk, Angel Cabrera

2:09 p.m.8:24 a.m.Kiradech Aphibarnrat, K.T. Kim, Kevin Na

2:20 p.m.8:35 a.m.Jason Day, Louis Oosthuizen, Adam Scott

2:31 p.m.8:46 a.m.Aaron Wise, Ethan Tracy, Brandon Harkins

2:42 p.m.8:57 a.m.Justin Suh (a), T.J. Howe, Frank Adams III

Thursday (No. 10)Friday (No. 1)Players

12:30 p.m.6:45 a.m.Lee Slattery, Miguel Tabuena, TBD

12:41 p.m.6:56 a.m.Sebastian Soderberg, TBD, Kent Bulle

12:52 p.m.7:07 a.m.TBD, Alex Noren, Jason Kokrak

1:03 p.m.7:18 a.m.Max Kieffer, Gary Stal, Kevin Tway

1:14 p.m.7:29 a.m.Cameron Smith, Steven Bowditch, Derek Bard (a)

1:25 p.m.7:40 a.m.Jim Herman, Smylie Kaufman, TBD

1:36 p.m.7:51 a.m.Brandt Snedeker, Bill Haas, Billy Horschel

1:47 p.m.8:02 a.m.Brooks Koepka, Chris Wood, Justin Thomas

1:58 p.m.8:13 a.m.Kevin Kisner, Charl Schwartzel, Branden Grace

2:09 p.m.8:24 a.m.Phil Mickelson, Justin Rose, Henrik Stenson

2:20 p.m.8:35 a.m.Retief Goosen, Keegan Bradley, Lucas Glover

2:31 p.m.8:46 a.m.Andy Pope, Sam Burns (a), Matt Marshall

2:42 p.m.8:57 a.m.Tyler Raber, Christopher Crawford (a), Austin Jordan

[Scotsclaff]

37 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Guinness has two 'n's! 

I do want the winner to be only at par. These guys are so much better than us. A hard course makes them appear normal.

Haha,glad you pointed that out,I'm such a thickk cnunt.

Yes,I prefer the majors to play tough and the winner comes in between +2 and -2.

6 minutes ago, Club Rat said:

Full list of pairs - Here are the full groupings and tee times for Thursday and Friday at the 2016 U.S. Open (all times Eastern):

Thursday (No. 1)Friday (No. 10)Players

6:45 a.m.12:30 p.m.Denny McCarthy, Aron Price, Mikael Lundberg

6:56 a.m.12:41 p.m.Nick Hardy (a), TBD, Tom Hoge

7:07 a.m.12:52 p.m.Patrick Rodgers, Sam Horsfield (a), Andrew Johnston

7:18 a.m.1:03 p.m.Justin Hicks, Soren Hansen, Jason Allred

7:29 a.m.1:14 p.m.Romain Wattel, Sung Kang, Yusaku Miyazato

7:40 a.m.1:25 p.m.Bernd Wiesberger, Matteo Manassero, Daniel Berger

7:51 a.m.1:36 p.m.Matt Kuchar, Bubba Watson, Patrick Reed

8:02 a.m.1:47 p.m.Rafa Cabrera Bello, J.B. Holmes, Kevin Chappell

8:13 a.m.1:58 p.m.Matthew Fitzpatrick, Danny Lee, Byeong Hun An

8:24 a.m.2:09 p.m.Rory McIlroy, Danny Willett, Rickie Fowler

8:35 a.m.2:20 p.m.Chris Kirk, Emiliano Grillo, Shane Lowry

8:46 a.m.2:31 p.m.Mike Miller, Matthew Borchert, Charlie Danielson (a)

8:57 a.m.2:42 p.m.Chase Parker, Ryan Stachler (a), Patrick Wilkes-Krier

Thursday (No. 10)Friday (No. 1)Players

6:45 a.m.12:30 p.m.Andres Gonzales, Scottie Scheffler (a), Derek Fathauer

6:56 a.m.12:41 p.m.Andrew Landry, Matthew Baldwin, D.J. Trahan

7:07 a.m.12:52 p.m.Rob Oppenheim, Dicky Pride, Wes Short Jr.

7:18 a.m.1:03 p.m.Patton Kizzire, Yuta Ikeda, David Lingmerth

7:29 a.m.1:14 p.m.Hideto Tanihara, Gregory Bourdy, Kevin Streelman

7:40 a.m.1:25 p.m.Jon Rahm (a), James Hahn, Robert Streb

7:51 a.m.1:36 p.m.Thomas Aiken, Jeff Maggert, David Toms

8:02 a.m.1:47 p.m.Marc Leishman, Jimmy Walker, Paul Casey

8:13 a.m.1:58 p.m.Lee Westwood, Luke Donald, Martin Kaymer

8:24 a.m.2:09 p.m.Russell Knox, Harris English, Jason Dufner

8:35 a.m.2:20 p.m.Zach Johnson, Bryson DeChambeau, Jordan Spieth

8:46 a.m.2:31 p.m.TBD, Gregor Main, Mark Anguiano

8:57 a.m.2:42 p.m.Kyle Mueller (a), Derek Change, Richie Schembechler

Thursday (No. 1)Friday (No. 10)Players

12:30 p.m.6:45 a.m.Peter Hanson, Tim Wilkinson, Thitiphun Chuayprakong

12:41 p.m.6:56 a.m.Billy Hurley III, Jeev Milkha Singh, J.J. Henry

12:52 p.m.7:07 a.m.Brendan Steele, Soren Kjeldsen, Jaco Van Zyl

1:03 p.m.7:18 a.m.Anirban Lahiri, Scott Piercy, Jamie Donaldson

1:14 p.m.7:29 a.m.Spencer Levin, Toru Taniguchi, Carlos Ortiz

1:25 p.m.7:40 a.m.Ryan Moore, Andrew Sullivan, Charley Hoffman

1:36 p.m.7:51 a.m.Hideki Matsuyama, Sergio Garcia, Dustin Johnson

1:47 p.m.8:02 a.m.Webb Simpson, Graeme McDowell, Geoff Ogilvy

1:58 p.m.8:13 a.m.Ernie Els, Jim Furyk, Angel Cabrera

2:09 p.m.8:24 a.m.Kiradech Aphibarnrat, K.T. Kim, Kevin Na

2:20 p.m.8:35 a.m.Jason Day, Louis Oosthuizen, Adam Scott

2:31 p.m.8:46 a.m.Aaron Wise, Ethan Tracy, Brandon Harkins

2:42 p.m.8:57 a.m.Justin Suh (a), T.J. Howe, Frank Adams III

Thursday (No. 10)Friday (No. 1)Players

12:30 p.m.6:45 a.m.Lee Slattery, Miguel Tabuena, TBD

12:41 p.m.6:56 a.m.Sebastian Soderberg, TBD, Kent Bulle

12:52 p.m.7:07 a.m.TBD, Alex Noren, Jason Kokrak

1:03 p.m.7:18 a.m.Max Kieffer, Gary Stal, Kevin Tway

1:14 p.m.7:29 a.m.Cameron Smith, Steven Bowditch, Derek Bard (a)

1:25 p.m.7:40 a.m.Jim Herman, Smylie Kaufman, TBD

1:36 p.m.7:51 a.m.Brandt Snedeker, Bill Haas, Billy Horschel

1:47 p.m.8:02 a.m.Brooks Koepka, Chris Wood, Justin Thomas

1:58 p.m.8:13 a.m.Kevin Kisner, Charl Schwartzel, Branden Grace

2:09 p.m.8:24 a.m.Phil Mickelson, Justin Rose, Henrik Stenson

2:20 p.m.8:35 a.m.Retief Goosen, Keegan Bradley, Lucas Glover

2:31 p.m.8:46 a.m.Andy Pope, Sam Burns (a), Matt Marshall

2:42 p.m.8:57 a.m.Tyler Raber, Christopher Crawford (a), Austin Jordan

Thanks for posting that,Phil with 2 euros,Rosie and Stenson.

[Golfingdad]

13 hours ago, iacas said:

 How do you take a quarter of a stroke? You didn't say they're 2.75 under par…

I dunno - just thought it sounded funnier without rounding.  If you've taken 19 strokes through 5 holes then you're project to take 68.4 through 18. That's good for a 1.6 stroke lead! :P

[ChrisP]

Weather forecast keeps getting worse and worse. Looks like a wet week up there now next week. Too bad. We won't get to see Oakmont show its teeth if that's the case. Very heavy rain being called for Thursday and Friday.

Edited June 11, 2016 by ChrisP

[iacas]

1 hour ago, ChrisP said:

Weather forecast keeps getting worse and worse. Looks like a wet week up there now next week. Too bad. We won't get to see Oakmont show its teeth if that's the case. Very heavy rain being called for Thursday and Friday.

Forecasts here this time of year change daily. We were supposed to get hail today four days ago. Now it is 87.

But yeah it doesn't look good and we will probably get a good amount of rain.

[BallStriker]

On 6/11/2016 at 6:39 AM, Club Rat said:

 

7:51 a.m.1:36 p.m.Matt Kuchar, Bubba Watson, Patrick Reed

 

Love this grouping.....the nice guy with two A-holes......

[Chilli Dipper]

1 hour ago, BallStriker said:

Love this grouping.....the nice guy with two A-holes......

Feed on the hate, Kooch!

[ChrisP]

18 hours ago, iacas said:

Forecasts here this time of year change daily. We were supposed to get hail today four days ago. Now it is 87.

But yeah it doesn't look good and we will probably get a good amount of rain.

Haha living in Fla. I know. Changes by the day. But I just know it's gonna pour on Thursday because that's the day I have tix for. I am the epitome of bad luck. It says 90% chance of heavy storms...with me there it might as well by 100%. I was there during Bethpage 2002. I jinxed that Open.

Edited June 12, 2016 by ChrisP

[Chilli Dipper]

20 minutes ago, ChrisP said:

Haha living in Fla. I know. Changes by the day. But I just know it's gonna pour on Thursday because that's the day I have tix for. I am the epitome of bad luck. It says 90% chance of heavy storms...with me there it might as well by 100%. I was there during Bethpage 2002. I jinxed that Open.

You not being at Bethpage in 2009 jinxed that Open even more.

[ChrisP]

1 hour ago, Chilli Dipper said:

You not being at Bethpage in 2009 jinxed that Open even more.

Meant 2009 I jinxed...although I was at 2002, too, which was probably more uncomfortable than '09 because they actually played through a monsoon. Players were putting through lakes. I remember watching Tiger one hole and he couldn't see because water was pouring off his cap and he had to turn it backwards lol. At least in '09 we could go home because they cancelled play for the day. I also jinxed 2000 at Pebble with the fog delay.

Edited June 12, 2016 by ChrisP

[mvmac]

 

Can u find the ball? #ipromisethereisone #oakmont

A photo posted by Keegan Bradley (@keeganbradley1) on Jun 12, 2016 at 3:09pm PDT

 

Oakmont is such an incredible place for the US Open! So excited to get after it this week! #cobrapumagolf #bridgestone #rolex #usga #oakmont #longestroughever

A photo posted by Bryson DeChambeau (@brysondechambeau) on Jun 12, 2016 at 3:20pm PDT

 

Back to the traditional US Open set up here at Oakmont.

A video posted by Graeme McDowell (@graeme_mcdowell) on Jun 12, 2016 at 8:00am PDT

[ChrisP]

Rough looks a bit juicy, similar to Merion in 2013. Glad to see the USGA let it grow a little more. Was really non existent the last two years.

[iacas]

1 hour ago, mvmac said:

No, Graeme, the key shot will be avoiding that shot.

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I'll be there briefly after I play Laurel Valley tomorrow, and then I'll be there Tuesday weather permitting, and then Thursday through Sunday.

Wednesday, I'm caddying for @NatalieB in a tournament. It's early so we will probably go down to Oakmont afterward, too.

[nevets88]

BillyHo, no complaints, m'kay?

[saevel25]

As of right now it looks like rain is going to hit Wednesday night and through Thursday. Weather.gov has it likely rain from 5 PM Wednesday to 5 PM Thursday.