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A lot of classic golf courses, either here in the U.S. or abroad, have some great short par-3s. Examples include: The 7th at Pebble Beach, The 12th at Augusta National, The 13th at Merion (East), the 8th at Royal Troon, to name a few... The newer courses, don't seem to have that 9-iron or less, par-three, especially on Tour, so what happened to these little devilish par-threes? Does anyone play par-threes where from the back tees are a 9-iron or less? I know I don't right now...

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A lot of classic golf courses, either here in the U.S. or abroad, have some great short par-3s.

Examples include: The 7th at Pebble Beach, The 12th at Augusta National, The 13th at Merion (East), the 8th at Royal Troon, to name a few...

The newer courses, don't seem to have that 9-iron or less, par-three, especially on Tour, so what happened to these little devilish par-threes? Does anyone play par-threes where from the back tees are a 9-iron or less? I know I don't right now...

One of the par 3's at my home course plays 138 from the tips.  I routinely play it at 131.

Another one plays 160 from the tips, but it is elevated quite a bit.

The shorter one has a big ravine in front of it, sand short and right, and sand on the whole left side.  The longer one has a pond short and right , and a large bunker on the left that is lower than the green.  Both are very fun to play.  Especially for me.  My iron game starts to get really shaky outside of 150 yards.

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One of the hardest holes I regularly play is anywhere from 120 to 135. It basically a volcano green with ob long, a small deep bunker short right, and a really tough chip left of the green or right.Its a really fun hole .Very easy if you hit the green but if you miss triple is definitely in play.

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I think most courses don't want a short par 3 for their longest tee's. Most people realize that distance adds difficulty on its own and you don't have to gimmick up a par 3.

Look at No. 17 at Sawgrass, 137 yards, but still only plays to a 3.064 stroke average. Not the toughest par 3 even on the course. No. 13 is 3.077 stroke average, No. 8 is 3.195 stroke average, No. 3 is 3.077 stroke average. Hole 17 at sawgrass for the PGA Tour professionals is the EASIEST par 3 on the course. The primary reason, it is 40 yards shorter than the next shortest par 3 on the course.

I am sure most PGA tour players will say it is a tough hole because of the water. Even bringing in the water on the scoring average it isn't that tough.

I don't mind seeing shorter par 3's. I rather not see a Par 3 become an automatic birdie for the PGA Tour players.

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Every course should have a short par three with a small, well-guarded green.

They're tougher than people think, so they can really mess with you if you're not careful. They cost less (less distance, smaller green surfaces to manage, etc.) and they're fun.

I get tired of hitting five-irons to four par-threes per round. Boooooooring.

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My regular course has a short par 3 (125 from the Whites) which is well bunkered and rewards the accurate short game.  The course also has a few back breakers, even from the white tees, to reward the long hitters.  The intermmediate length holes each have a fair amount of trouble along the way where some length is required but you have to be accurate or use a hybrid to tee off.  There is also a downhill par 5 of about 490 that if I really somke it (for my swing) and wind up on the left side of some trees I can give it a go at the green.   But the short par 3 has its own difficulties and helps balance out a total golf experience on the course.

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Par 3's are one of my pet peeves on some/most golf courses. There are many courses that seem to have all their par 3's that are the same club or at best 2 clubs for the round (typically 165-180).

If I were to design a course it would have 4 par 3's and they would be 9i/PW, 7i/8i, 5i/4i, hybrid/fairway wood - and the tee boxes would compensate for average length.

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At the Dormie Club, near Pinehurst NC, the 12th hole plays to just 118 yards from the very back tees.  Its surrounded by lots of bunkers, with a very tough multi-tier green.  You can see some reasonably good photos at:

http://www.golftripper.com/dormie-club/ and http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?topic=50259.25

I'm not sure I'd tell anyone that its a "great" hole, but its interesting, and plenty difficult enough.  This isn't a particularly obscure place, Dormie Club is in Golf Digest's Top 100 Public Courses, and was designed by Crenshaw and Core.  Goes to show that some architects are still designing good short holes.

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I'd definitely rather see more shorter, trickier par threes. They're interesting, above all else.

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I would as well.  My previous league course had a short par 3 for the 9th.  It ranged from 130 to 105 depending on the tee.  The only relatively flat spot was the green.  To the right and back, it was a sharp drop off with the right side having a bunker 8 feet below the green. Left was a steep hill with deep rough usually.  If you got caught up in that, it was a tough up and down.

Wind made it way worse too!

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Par 3's are one of my pet peeves on some/most golf courses. There are many courses that seem to have all their par 3's that are the same club or at best 2 clubs for the round (typically 165-180). If I were to design a course it would have 4 par 3's and they would be 9i/PW, 7i/8i, 5i/4i, hybrid/fairway wood - and the tee boxes would compensate for average length.

Hybrid / fairway wood par 3s always seem ridiculous to me. Getting that distance alone is hard enough with long clubs. Avoiding bunkers and the like is just making a bad situation even worse. The longest par 3 on the courses I play at is about 187 and that's hitting my 5/6 full out.

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Every course should have a short par three with a small, well-guarded green.

They're tougher than people think, so they can really mess with you if you're not careful. They cost less (less distance, smaller green surfaces to manage, etc.) and they're fun.

I get tired of hitting five-irons to four par-threes per round. Boooooooring.

I agree.  A course I played the other day has par 3's that are 175, 210, 165, 170 and then they also have this little gem:

And here's a picture from to the right of the green where you park your carts:

It's usually about 150 yards from the back (elevated) tee, and its usually downwind ... not more than a gap or pitching wedge and it's just as, if not more, difficult than all of those other holes.  Also, more fun! :-D

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One of the hardest holes I regularly play is anywhere from 120 to 135. It basically a volcano green with ob long, a small deep bunker short right, and a really tough chip left of the green or right.Its a really fun hole .Very easy if you hit the green but if you miss triple is definitely in play.

Dang... where is this?

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This looks like the "Volcano Hole" at Bedford Springs, PA.  I remember it being MUCH longer, though, around 200 yards.  This hole was apparently done as part of a Donald Ross redesign of a Tillinghast redesign.

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Dang... where is this?

Eagle Springs in Mukwonago WI. It's the oldest course in the state. It's a par 35 9 hole course (it's an easy course besides 2 and 9). Trying to get up and down from anywhere besides short is a real pain in the ass. The left side is really steep and the right is awkward because the trees don't allow you to hit a very high shot. The green slopes pretty hard back to front also which makes putting from either side or past the hole tough.

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Every course should have a short par three with a small, well-guarded green.

They're tougher than people think, so they can really mess with you if you're not careful. They cost less (less distance, smaller green surfaces to manage, etc.) and they're fun.

I get tired of hitting five-irons to four par-threes per round. Boooooooring.


Totally agree (except I am often hitting fairways woods).

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I know I hit 4 or 5 iron to number 2, 5 or 6 iron to 7, 8 iron to 11, and Hybrid or 4 iron to 16... there is this one course I played a long time ago that was 107 yards from the back tee, and another par three on the same side was 118 yards with bunkers guarding the green... I'm with Erik I don't want to be playing a course where I'm hitting the same club to all the par-threes, they should all test different parts of your bag, hell I'd be okay with a course where par-three I need Driver, or Fairway Wood, one that was a 4 or 5 iron, maybe another one, that was maybe a 7-iron or so... and the fourth one be a wedge... I'd be ok with a devilish tiny little 100 yard par 3 as the final par-three... Different topic all together but I also don't like it when all the par fours are in a 50-80 yard window...

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Fossil trace has a 95 yard par three, everybody thinks it is really easy. But I've seen more people take double triple on that hole then any other par threes. FYI. I've gotten a hole in one with 60 degree wedge. Just saying

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