General COVID-19 Topic

[sjduffers]

3 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

Like your original shots my understanding is the booster also needs two weeks to be fully effective

I thought it was less, like inside a week: 3-5 days perhaps. Regardless, if you're gonna get the 'rona, it's probably much better to be vaccinated and have a breakthrough infection than not.

[iacas]

[colin007]

18 minutes ago, iacas said:

This is very helpful 👍🏽

[Zippo]

Israel says 4 shots now for over 60.

Israel set to offer fourth dose of COVID-19 vaccine to people over 60

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Israel announced on Tuesday that it will offer a fourth dose of the COVID-19 vaccine to people older than 60, amid concern about the spread of the Omicron variant of the coronavirus.

 

[Wanzo]

7 hours ago, iacas said:

Why are half the unvaccinated hospitalized?

 

I thought this was intriguing.

 

US Army Creates Single Vaccine Effective Against All COVID & SARS Variants, Researchers Say

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Within weeks, Walter Reed researchers expect to announce that human trials show success against Omicron—and...

 

 

[iacas]

12 hours ago, Wanzo said:

Why are half the unvaccinated hospitalized?

It's a graphic. It's just illustrating how the numbers can look one way… but really be very different when taken as a whole.

Unvaccinated are more likely to:

• transmit
• get symptoms
• require hospitalization
• die

[iacas]

 

[Double Mocha Man]

11 minutes ago, iacas said:

 

That is a great print ad.  Because there is absolutely no way to miss it.  And unless you are a total dolt you will be curious to read the fine print at the bottom.

On the other covid-infected hand, maybe most of the unvaccinated don't read newspapers.  So the 6 hospitals were preaching to the choir.

Edited December 22, 2021 by Double Mocha Man
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[imsys0042]

20 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

That is a great print ad.  Because there is absolutely no way to miss it.  And unless you are a total dolt you will be curious to read the fine print at the bottom.

On the other covid-infected hand, maybe most of the unvaccinated don't read newspapers.  So the 6 hospitals were preaching to the choir.

Hmmm.... unvaccinated person reading this ad:

1) My news source told me this is overblown, I'm fine

2) Look at all the sheep!

3) My cousin/friend/co-worker/fellow idiot had it and he/she/it is fine

4) I don't want the government tell me what to do!  (Then gets in car, puts on law mandated seat belt followed by stopping at red lights and parking is designated areas.  He is also on his way to pay his taxes and will stop off and pay a parking fine on the way home, and while there will renew his Driver's License which is one of the basic things that people have to do in life)

5) I had Covid last year, I'm immune!

6) I'm smarter than that, I take medicine for animals to cure/prevent me!

7) Nobody tells me what to do, THIS IS AMERICA!

8 Jesus will save me.   Then vaguely remembers the old joke about 2 boats and a helicopter 

9) I'll take my chances with a 1% death rate.   Then refuses to fly which has a 0.01 % chance of dying in a plane crash

10) I'm still doing my research.  Gobbles down food with chemicals and preservative you know zero about.

I've heard variations on all of these, this year.   Obviously no one comes out and says "I take horse meds and are smarter than you", but these are all I've heard since April when it opened up to everyone.   major 🤦‍♂️

 

Of course, I like to think that there are those who would read something like that, empathize and realize that they need to get off their south 40.   But most of the vaccine resistant I know are sticking to their guns.

[Vinsk]

32 minutes ago, imsys0042 said:

But most of the vaccine resistant I know are sticking to their guns.

Not guns. Misfiring water pistols.😁

[Wanzo]

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by Wanzo

[saevel25]

right now, there is no way to tell the severity of the new variant. 

Phil is incorrect in it not being deadly. There are confirmed cases of people being hospitalized and killed by this variant. 

Putting on my cold hearted logical hat here. I do think there is an acceptable threshold of how many people we expect to get very sick from this and die versus who does not. I think it is something to look into. I do not think we are close to that, since COVID rates are going through the roof right now. The biggest issue again, swamping hospitals. 

to me, that is the biggest issue. That COVID is going to cause people who did not get COVID, but need an emergency room, can not get one. 

Until COVID mutates to a variant that, no matter how much it infects people, doesn't swamp our health care system, I think we need regulations in place (mask mandates, limiting travel, limit big events) and pressure put on people to get vaccinated. 

[Double Mocha Man]

Phil did not hit a high, soft-landing 64 degree wedge this time...

[boogielicious]

5 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

Phil did not hit a high, soft-landing 64 degree wedge this time...

He skulled it into the pond.

[Double Mocha Man]

Just now, boogielicious said:

He skulled it into the pond.

😄

[DaveP043]

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Why not let it go and let people get it and develop immunity? Especially for those who won’t get vaccinated?

Why not let people get sick and HOPE that very early-stage trends continue.  And if lots of them DO die, because they're not vaccinated, we'll have learned (too late) that this variant is more lethal than the initial studies showed.  THEN we can start doing something about it.  Its a small price to pay as long as science learns from it.  Good thinking, Phil!  Even better thinking, going on Twitter to as your "serious question", you're likely to learn a great deal from random people and their 140 character responses.

[phillyk]

37 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

He skulled it into the pond.

He vinsked it as vinsk hits a high soft shot over water to 1ft. 

[iacas]

1 hour ago, saevel25 said:

Phil is incorrect in it not being deadly.

Yup.