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Whew!...that was a lot to get thru.  Interesting though.  Am I wrong in thinking that "disconnected" means allowing any particular part of the body to get so out of sequence with the other parts that the necessary corrections destroy the procedure?  

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Nice post @iacas, I like the updated definition of connected, makes a lot of sense to me. 

Yes, the arms basically load "up" as the pivot provides the "in". This is where 3D can be really beneficial because the look of players on the backswing can skew things.

If you want to improve "connection", probably better to ditch the tees under the arms.

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Good read. Info like this really reinforces for me how glad I am that there are people dedicated to studying the golf swing and breaking down all the technical elements (i.e. quality golf instructors) so I don’t have to.

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That video really hit home for me, hopefully I can work on staying more connected whenever the rains stop. Thanks a lot. 

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Really good read, especially for someone who could quite easily sub as the model for many of the bad position photos.

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Not sure how many times I've said it, but it's info like this why I love The SandTrap

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Maybe I’m wrong, but I always thought of “maintaining connection” as “maintaining the triangle,” so in that sense it’s basically what this post is saying. So perhaps I erroneously reached the correct conclusion 😅

Anyway, great post. Keeping my hands in front of me is something I’ve always struggled with. I tend to get my left arm adducted too much late in the backswing.

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I feel like I was the inspiration for this post because of how dense I’m being in My Swing thread. Please do not dispute that. Let me feel important. 
 

great post!

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My latest lesson had me moving the lead arm off the chest like 30 degrees on the backswing. I really feel the pivot pulling the hands in after A1. Before I was pulling my hands in while trying to kick the clubhead out. The gist is the change got me to a better position at A4 more consistently. So I’m pretty much disconnecting in the popular sense of the definition right from the get go. It can be seen in recent videos in my swing thread.

The adduction I feel in transition when I make a good swing happens quickly. It’s like a quick adduction then abduction, which I think gels with the not jammed feeling Erik is talking about. It happens more naturally. When I try and force adduction I get a lot of chaos.  

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After watching the video I've been working on the 18 degree adduction while turning at the same time.  No 43 degrees for me.  I think prior I was somewhere between the two.


Any feels or drills or input on getting the arms and hands to stay in front of my chest instead the current approx 96 inches perpendicular to my left earlobe?

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I don't drop in often but when I do it is great to see top content like this. The stay connected idea to me has always made me think of the exact problem this thread shows and gives me some great pointers for me next range session. 

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Excellent points here, and excellent video to illustrate them. The swing seems so much easier when you apply them. Lately, I've focused on the height of my right elbow through the backswing which accomplishes the same thing for me. After doing it "wrong" for so long it felt like the "flying right elbow" we've been taught to avoid for years. But if you look at some of the longest drivers over the years (Nicklaus, Couples, Bubba and now Wolff) you will see some pretty high right elbows at the top of their backswings. But this just makes it easier to drop the club down into the "slot" and hit from the inside. And that's why a guy like Wolff can hit it as far as DeChambeau without bulking up. 


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Hi guys, I was wondering what are some main causes of the right elbow being too far around / behind the body at the top of the backswing. Everything else in my backswing is solid.  For example, my elbow isn't flying and my arms aren't overswinging (so I don't think it's a John Daly / Freddy Couples elbow); also, my A3 position is similar to that of a textbook swing (example Adam Scott), so it's not a Charlie Wi type of elbow (with all due respect, Wi is a very great golfer). Any feedback appreciated.

 

Also, I looked at the recent new posts, and realized I've been posting way too many of them compared to all of you guys.  From now on, I will keep them to a minimum.


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@nahagrerwe, I merged your topic here because I think this is what you’re after. Check it out.

Also you don’t have to post less, just search and add to existing topics. I’d also recommend starting a Member Swing topic. Post a video if you have one, but even if you don’t you can ask questions there and people can direct you to topics like this that apply, and converse with you specifically about your swing.

Also it’s a slower time of year for us in the U.S.

Also, this may help:

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