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Saturday afternoon watching golf and reading a good book. Gonna try to get out later and put some work in on Sv 4 and Sv3 skills. 

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Continues to help me on my road back from injuries. Gives me focus. Have read it and continue to read it. Always open on my desk for the evening perusal. Best, -Marv

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Well I can so far this book has improved my putting. I was practicing wrong and now I'm much better inside of 6 feet and my lag putting is getting better. It has saved me some strokes. I need to work on my wedge game. It seems like I get one area fixed and then I go to hell in some other area.

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I really enjoyed this book. The concept of separation value was helpful in focusing my limited amount of practice time. I also liked the game planning discussion. I'll probably read through it again this winter. 

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It's a great book.  I plan on reading it again over the winter break.  I forgot some stuff in here.  Simple and to the point.  Factually based instead of subjective feelings.

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My book was a good friend during Jury Duty this week..... awesome book you guys!

 

Reading through the data, game plans and strategy disproved my long held beliefs such as PGA tour being a big putting contest, Par 3's are no different type of holes just to name a few.   Rereading some of the chapters again already...

 

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8 hours ago, Stonedude said:

My book was a good friend during Jury Duty this week..... awesome book you guys!

Reading through the data, game plans and strategy disproved my long held beliefs such as PGA tour being a big putting contest, Par 3's are no different type of holes just to name a few.   Rereading some of the chapters again already...

Thanks for the feedback. Glad we could help you get through Jury Duty. 🙂

I gave you the LSW badge. Thanks for your purchase.

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Practically speaking, how do you suggest someone goes about making a decision map?  Enlarging and printing images off google maps?

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The feedback excited me to buy a copy a couple days ago. Now awaiting arrival in the U.K. and can’t wait!

I read Ray Floyd’s ‘Elements of Scoring’ last year, then ended up not playing again until last month! Do the books compare in any way?

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3 hours ago, mellison24 said:

The feedback excited me to buy a copy a couple days ago. Now awaiting arrival in the U.K. and can’t wait!

I read Ray Floyd’s ‘Elements of Scoring’ last year, then ended up not playing again until last month! Do the books compare in any way?

 

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14 hours ago, Vinsk said:

 

Thank you Vinsk, but that didn’t really answer my question. I was hoping for an answer from anyone who’s read both, so I’d have a flavour of what to expect.

Of course, I’ll find out out for myself when LSW arrives 🙂

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13 minutes ago, mellison24 said:

Thank you Vinsk, but that didn’t really answer my question. I was hoping for an answer from anyone who’s read both, so I’d have a flavour of what to expect.

Of course, I’ll find out out for myself when LSW arrives 🙂

They are different. Floyd’s book is more about his approach to scoring as the title indicates and is more about the short game and approach shots. LSW goes into much more detail on what is important to work on, how to determine that, how to strategize knowing your tendencies and how to practice. I liked both books a lot, bit LSW is much more complete.

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On 4/10/2019 at 10:43 AM, dsc123 said:

Practically speaking, how do you suggest someone goes about making a decision map?  Enlarging and printing images off google maps?

You mean for game planning? You kind of can't do that ahead of time unless you're going to execute shots exactly as you planned.

I like to scout out a course on Game Golf ahead of time sometimes just to get an idea of what I'm going to face, but beyond that it's kind of a see how I end up hitting the ball that day kind of thing. As long as you have a good grasp of your shot zones you should be able to figure out what you need to do.

17 hours ago, mellison24 said:

I read Ray Floyd’s ‘Elements of Scoring’ last year, then ended up not playing again until last month! Do the books compare in any way?

Floyd is a little too conservative, IIRC. He's big on "taking your medicine" and chipping out from trouble instead of trying to advance the ball wherever possible, and he also advocates laying up and playing to specific full swing yardages. Everyone gets better the closer they get to the hole.

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On 4/10/2019 at 10:43 AM, dsc123 said:

Practically speaking, how do you suggest someone goes about making a decision map?  Enlarging and printing images off google maps?

You can't really do it ahead of time except for some tee shots, and even then, the wind or different conditions can affect those.

You can mark out where the really dark shades of grey are on the course, so you're aware of those, as well as some lighter grey areas to miss near greens.

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2 hours ago, billchao said:

he also advocates laying up and playing to specific full swing yardages. Everyone gets better the closer they get to the hole.

I try to get as close to the hole on layups as possible except on weird green complexes.

There’s a lot of severely elevated greens in my parts, 35-50 yards on flat ground or down slope and up a cliff-i can only hit the green with a 8.5/10 shot or a lucky bounce through the rough landing just short.

Im pretty handy with a wedge too. I use the bounce well. Short-sided shots aren’t a death sentence by any means for me...my bump n runs are trash by my accounts. Constantly 12-20 feet when I have green to work with. I digress...

A nice relaxed 3/4 sand or lob wedge from 70-90 must be the play. 

I’ll probably get ripped apart on this, but this site is for learning so I’m ok with posting this.

In my final defense, I do not think tiger would have lost on the 18th in matchplay if he was 80-105 instead of 50.

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I've ordered my copy yesterday, should arrive in 2 week. I've been wanting to get that book for a while but the shipping cost of ebay for canada is horrible! But with all the good comments on the book, I've decided that It was worth paying a little extra for shipping!! Can't wait to read it.

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