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I have been a member since 2010.

Below are just a few of the things I’ve learned in no particular order.

  • Ball flight laws: club face controls the majority of initial direction

  • A centered hip turn is Not a reverse pivot

  • Most good putters decelerate just before impact

  • The right knee losses flex during the back swing

  • Changing the picture is hard

  • Left side bend and right side bend in the swing

  • Putting is the least important skill to scoring

  • GIR is king

  • Most golfers “con” themselves (including me)

  • Leave the flag stick in off the green

  • Lag happens as a result of good sequencing

  • Lowest Score Wins is a great book to have in your golfing library

 

Share some of the things you’ve learned and myth’s that were broken since joining this site.

 

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Jim Morgan

Driver: :callaway: Paradym 10.5 deg Reg
Woods: 3W :callaway: Epic Flash 15 deg, Heavenwood:callaway:GBB 20 deg
3 Hybrid: :callaway:  Epic Flash 21 deg, 5 Hybird: :callaway: Apex 24 deg
Irons: :ping: G425 Graphite 6-SW, Wedges: :ping: Glide 58 deg
Putter: :bettinardi: Armlock  :aimpoint: Express
 :titleist: golf bag, Pinned RF

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Mine is more of a general approach to the game. Something like there is more than one way to skin a cat. The cat in this instance being one's golf game. 

In My Bag:
A whole bunch of Tour Edge golf stuff...... :beer:

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12 minutes ago, coachjimsc said:

Share some of the things you’ve learned and myth’s that were broken since joining this site.

Looks like I found the correct place to learn about golf.

:ping:  :tmade:  :callaway:   :gamegolf:  :titleist:

TM White Smoke Big Fontana; Pro-V1
TM Rac 60 TT WS, MD2 56
Ping i20 irons U-4, CFS300
Callaway XR16 9 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S
Callaway XR16 3W 15 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S, X2Hot Pro 20 degrees S

"I'm hitting the woods just great, but I'm having a terrible time getting out of them." ~Harry Toscano

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If you can't do it slow you can't do it fast.  If you can't do it short you can't do it long.  And the Five S's in general.

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I have this in my office:

The ball starts where the face is pointed, and curves away from the path.

The other is the video on how to setup to prevent a slice ... it works. 

(too lazy and I am at work to chase it down) 

 

 

Ken Proud member of the iSuk Golf Association ... Sponsored by roofing companies across the US, Canada, and the UK

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Putting to the apex is a good way to miss the putt low.

Colin P.

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Learning about golf is fun.

Arguing about theories and other assorted nonsense is futile. 

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Dave

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I've learned,  hitting the ball anywhere but the sweet spot adds spin.

The correct Ball Flight Laws.

How little I know about golf.       :-P

 

Brian   

 

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I've learned a lot, but I think the most important thing I've had reinforced is to keep an open mind and have some humility.  

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What I've learned from TST?

Everyone ELSE is slow.

Beginners can hit it 320 yards... 90% of the time.. with a 95mph swing speed. And get pissed when you call shenanigans.

Accuracy is key

Distance is key

Putting is key

Alcohol is key

 

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16 hours ago, coachjimsc said:

Share some of the things you’ve learned and myth’s that were broken since joining this site.

When I started here, some of the Rules of Golf threads were eye-opening. It has made me want to learn more about the history and tradition of golf and actually compete in a league or regular tournaments, rather than just go out and slap the ball around like I currently do. 

My Swing


Driver: :ping: G30, Irons: :tmade: Burner 2.0, Putter: :cleveland:, Balls: :snell:

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12 hours ago, bste said:

I've learned,  hitting the ball anywhere but the sweet spot adds spin.

The correct Ball Flight Laws.

How little I know about golf.       :-P

 

Yeah, but even hitting the sweet spot can have a lot of unwanted spin depending upon face angle and path. Key in on the word "unwanted". :-D

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TM White Smoke Big Fontana; Pro-V1
TM Rac 60 TT WS, MD2 56
Ping i20 irons U-4, CFS300
Callaway XR16 9 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S
Callaway XR16 3W 15 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S, X2Hot Pro 20 degrees S

"I'm hitting the woods just great, but I'm having a terrible time getting out of them." ~Harry Toscano

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1 minute ago, Lihu said:

Yeah, but even hitting the sweet spot can have a lot of unwanted spin depending upon face angle and path. Key in on the word "unwanted". :-D

With a capital U.

Brian   

 

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I learned some of the finer points on the rules of the game, but most importantly, I learned that my swing sucks. Yes, I thought it was a good swing until I started recording and reviewing. Thankfully, it is slowly evolving to a slightly less sucky swing and my handicap has been dropping some.

- Shane

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When talking about the ball flight laws, always make sure when you mention face, you talk about it relative to path and target, omitting target can bring confusion. Kind of obvious, but I caused confusion before by not mentioning target.

 

Steve

Kill slow play. Allow walking. Reduce ineffective golf instruction. Use environmentally friendly course maintenance.

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:-)Not anything I learned but do notice that there is no shortage of political topics on TST when the golf threads become tiresome 

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About Golf:

1. You need a good camera and a tripod. Probably better to spend more money on your camera than any club, iron set, putter, whatever, it is the best tool you can have. Plus now you can use your phone, it is better than a lot of the standalone cameras. You can practice without it, but more practice should be done with it, than without it.

2. Practice must be done focusing on a single thing. (Stupid Monkey) and that one thing might take years to be done right.

3. Most golf professionals are full of bullsh*t. Don't waste your time with them. Find smart people and soak up all you can like a sponge.

 

Not about Golf:

1. I learned that many of the people who post here regularly are really cool people.

 

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Michael

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    • Nah, man. People have been testing clubs like this for decades at this point. Even 35 years. @M2R, are you AskGolfNut? If you're not, you seem to have fully bought into the cult or something. So many links to so many videos… Here's an issue, too: - A drop of 0.06 is a drop with a 90 MPH 7I having a ball speed of 117 and dropping it to 111.6, which is going to be nearly 15 yards, which is far more than what a "3% distance loss" indicates (and is even more than a 4.6% distance loss). - You're okay using a percentage with small numbers and saying "they're close" and "1.3 to 1.24 is only 4.6%," but then you excuse the massive 53% difference that going from 3% to 4.6% represents. That's a hell of an error! - That guy in the Elite video is swinging his 7I at 70 MPH. C'mon. My 5' tall daughter swings hers faster than that.
    • Yea but that is sort of my quandary, I sometimes see posts where people causally say this club is more forgiving, a little more forgiving, less forgiving, ad nauseum. But what the heck are they really quantifying? The proclamation of something as fact is not authoritative, even less so as I don't know what the basis for that statement is. For my entire golfing experience, I thought of forgiveness as how much distance front to back is lost hitting the face in non-optimal locations. Anything right or left is on me and delivery issues. But I also have to clarify that my experience is only with irons, I never got to the point of having any confidence or consistency with anything longer. I feel that is rather the point, as much as possible, to quantify the losses by trying to eliminate all the variables except the one you want to investigate. Or, I feel like we agree. Compared to the variables introduced by a golfer's delivery and the variables introduced by lie conditions, the losses from missing the optimal strike location might be so small as to almost be noise over a larger area than a pea.  In which case it seems that your objection is that the 0-3% area is being depicted as too large. Which I will address below. For statements that is absurd and true 100% sweet spot is tiny for all clubs. You will need to provide some objective data to back that up and also define what true 100% sweet spot is. If you mean the area where there are 0 losses, then yes. While true, I do not feel like a not practical or useful definition for what I would like to know. For strikes on irons away from the optimal location "in measurable and quantifiable results how many yards, or feet, does that translate into?"   In my opinion it ok to be dubious but I feel like we need people attempting this sort of data driven investigation. Even if they are wrong in some things at least they are moving the discussion forward. And he has been changing the maps and the way data is interpreted along the way. So, he admits to some of the ideas he started with as being wrong. It is not like we all have not been in that situation 😄 And in any case to proceed forward I feel will require supporting or refuting data. To which as I stated above, I do not have any experience in drivers so I cannot comment on that. But I would like to comment on irons as far as these heat maps. In a video by Elite Performance Golf Studios - The TRUTH About Forgiveness! Game Improvement vs Blade vs Players Distance SLOW SWING SPEED! and going back to ~12:50 will show the reference data for the Pro 241. I can use that to check AskGolfNut's heat map for the Pro 241: a 16mm heel, 5mm low produced a loss of efficiency from 1.3 down to 1.24 or ~4.6%. Looking at AskGolfNut's heatmap it predicts a loss of 3%. Is that good or bad? I do not know but given the possible variations I am going to say it is ok. That location is very close to where the head map goes to 4%, these are very small numbers, and rounding could be playing some part. But for sure I am going to say it is not absurd. Looking at one data point is absurd, but I am not going to spend time on more because IME people who are interested will do their own research and those not interested cannot be persuaded by any amount of data. However, the overall conclusion that I got from that video was that between the three clubs there is a difference in distance forgiveness, but it is not very much. Without some robot testing or something similar the human element in the testing makes it difficult to say is it 1 yard, or 2, or 3?  
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