Point by point:
• I noted above 6 holes with different options and decisions to be made off the tee.
• I agree some fairways should be widened and noted which ones above. That said, the holes are still good to excellent and highly memorable and far from boring
• This point about the greens being plain and flat is somewhat a misnomer. Yes, they are not Winged Foot or Augusta, but they aren’t all flat ovals either. 1, 3, 4, 7, 8, 11( since the changes last year), and 15-18 all have shapes, slopes, tiers or undulations to a significant degree.
• Agreed, the course was designed to be a beast tee to green
• Same comment as above, although I will say that this point also gets overplayed. It’s not like you have no option but to chip out of the rough. Hit a wedge or short iron, position yourself for a wedge into the green, and try to go up and down.
• Agreed there are no short or drivable par 4s. Those are good features but not some make or break requirement for a course to be not boring
• 1 and 18 are fine. They aren’t world beaters but you can probably count on one hand the number of courses with all 18 world class holes. And Golden Age courses often had soft opening holes and their best holes before the 18th because back then Match Play was the dominant game and matches often didn’t make the 18th. And 18 is not boring at all, with the bunkering and elevated greensite
• I have played the Black countless times and never once came close to a 6 hour round. Maybe if you catch a very busy Saturday afternoon you will hit 5-1/2 or so. Usually I play in 5 hours or just past that. People who play the Bethpage courses know that rounds on the Red and Blue take longer than rounds on the Black. And btw, that is no different than any other public course in the NY-NJ area except Ferry Point.
I don't know. A weird one. I had four birdies on Friday and shot 87. Those things do not jive.
EDIT--Also, in case you think I may be one of those long hitters who just get in trouble a bit, I'm not. No penalty shots in that 87 with four birdies. Just a lot of bad shots.
I'm not doing it here just for the heck of it - I think that BPB is wildly over-rated. I think it's boring.
It completely fails to live up to what it could or should be given the property.
If you need to hang your hat on me agreeing that "some holes aren't boring" then that says quite a bit.
Get an avatar for yourself, please.
My opinion in a nutshell?
20-26 yard wide fairways on relatively long holes force you to almost always just hit a driver and to find the really narrow fairway. There's almost never a decision to be made on the tee about the club OR the location of the tee shot. Angles don't matter, but they really don't matter at BPB.
The bunkers are set into the rough, meaning that the fairway corridors have been somewhat artificially narrowed.
The greens are generally flat, relatively oval-shaped, and uninspiring. There are few that have any interesting contours, interior OR exterior.
Virtually every hole is a mid- to long-iron that must carry and land and stop on the green. Very few holes even allow a run-up shot.
Thick rough with virtually no recovery options everywhere.
Almost no half-par type holes (unless you count the ample 4.5-par par fours).
A dud of a hole opens and closes the course: 1 and 18, meh.
Six-hour rounds are common.