Whats the average roll out for various irons?

[cutchemist42]

Was reading ana rticle about when people predict their iron distances, they fail to take into consideration the carry of the shot vs the carry+roll, which can result in problems with hazards.

However as some people like myself will never likely have access to the various software out there, whats a good estimate to how much roll to add to shots with various clubs if you at least gamegolf total distances?

[Psyber]

Lot of factors here. Spin, decent angle, and how hard/soft the surface is the ball lands on.

[Patch]

I don't think there is a correct answer to this question. Uphill, down hill, and level landing areas. Firm, or not so firm fairways. Angle of decent of the ball. Back spin, if any, applied to the ball. Over spin?.

The only time I cared about the roll out after the carry was if a hazard was at the end of a down roll. Since I couldn't predict the roll out, I went with less club, which meant less carry. 

[iacas]

0 yards.

My 3I might roll out a bit.

[Lihu]

5 hours ago, cutchemist42 said:

Was reading ana rticle about when people predict their iron distances, they fail to take into consideration the carry of the shot vs the carry+roll, which can result in problems with hazards.

If you use an application like GG to measure your distances then you are including roll.

 

5 hours ago, cutchemist42 said:

However as some people like myself will never likely have access to the various software out there, whats a good estimate to how much roll to add to shots with various clubs if you at least gamegolf total distances?

Pretty much impossible except on approaches where you have an obvious pitch mark.

I just played a person this morning who had negative roll on anything less than 150 yards. He didn't score that much better than me today, but it was impressive to watch. My other partners were pretty sure he was a sandbagger. I flew a 127 yard par 3 then showed him that my 9i was much too long today. Back pin 135 yards and I ended up flying the green, he saw my ball land past the green and still used his 9i and also flew the green. So, even with all that spin and swing speed, it didn't help his score.

[Dave2512]

0-5 yards for well struck shots. If it's rolling I did something wrong, which is nearly every shot so it's not something I count on or calculate. I laser and plan on missing short. 

[DrvFrShow]

depending upon how I hit the shot it can be anywhere from -1 to + 5 yds.

[shanksalot]

As others have said, too many variables such as wind, cold, firm or soft greens. What I usually do is figure the more loft of an iron the less it will roll out. If I have a carry to get to the pin I take an extra club and choke it down a bit. If you have softer greens and can land the ball on the green consistently just take a look at your ball mark and see how far you are from the pin. This will give you an idea about the roll you get on a shot. The only other thing I can think of is if you are not sure how much roll you get just go for the middle of the green and don't go for a sucker pin. A longer putt is better than a ball in a bunker or over the green.

[Yukari]

Depends on too many factors: type of ball, particular iron used, condition of the landing area, etc. for me, typically anything 7 iron down, I get virtually no rolls, with wedges having negative rolls. Mid irons, 5-10 yards. 3 and 4 irons, can be 10+ yards depending on how high I hit it. 

[billchao]

Unless I thin it or catch a slope on the green or something, my irons are usually within a yard or two of my ball mark, assuming normal conditions (not dried out hard greens).

[Ernest Jones]

On August 19, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Lihu said:

If you use an application like GG to measure your distances then you are including roll.

He knows that @Lihu, that's why he posted the question. 

Read twice, post once. 

@cutchemist42, like others have stated, if I hit the ball well (not at all a certainty) I typically get enough height and steep decent that there is very, very little rollout with my irons. Unfortunately, it's not something I can count on though, as I'm just as likely to thin it, unless it's less than a 7i. 

[newtogolf]

As others have said, roll out can vary based on swing quality, wind, ground hardness and ball.  On well hit shots I see less than 5 yards roll out with most of my irons.  

Most mid - high cappers I play with end up short of their target  90% of the time as we tend to calculate distances based on our best shots and not our average shots.  On a well hit ball my 7i goes 160 - 165 yards but if the middle of the green is that distance, I grab my 6i.  

[Lihu]

7 hours ago, shanksalot said:

As others have said, too many variables such as wind, cold, firm or soft greens. What I usually do is figure the more loft of an iron the less it will roll out. If I have a carry to get to the pin I take an extra club and choke it down a bit. If you have softer greens and can land the ball on the green consistently just take a look at your ball mark and see how far you are from the pin. This will give you an idea about the roll you get on a shot. The only other thing I can think of is if you are not sure how much roll you get just go for the middle of the green and don't go for a sucker pin. A longer putt is better than a ball in a bunker or over the green.

Yeah, it's really difficult to come up with a generalized carry from total distance. Maximum carry distances on the driving range are not really a good indication of actual approach distances especially when you are trying to take yardage off or changing the loft etc.

Ball marks are the only way you can tell carry, and then it's kind of meaningless to base the next approach on that since conditions most likely change from hole to hole.

[DaveP043]

I know my distances reasonably well, and a well-struck shot onto most normal greens around here will stop pretty close to the pitch mark for most clubs, up to rolling maybe 4 or 5 yards with a 4-iron or hybrid.  However, if I'm trying to lay up short of a hazard, I'll anticipate as much as 20 yards of roll, I don't ever want to lay up and still reach the hazard.  When I was in Ireland this summer, I'd anticipate a minimum of 10 yards of roll with short irons into a green, up to 20 or 25 yards for a longer iron, maybe even more when hitting downwind.  

[David in FL]

On August 19, 2016 at 9:21 PM, iacas said:

0 yards.

My 3I might roll out a bit.

This ^^^

[Jeremie Boop]

When I pull an iron for a shot I don't plan on much/any roll depending on the club unless the ground is hard, then it's pretty difficult to plan on roll. Shots into normal/receptive greens result in anything from a hop and stop or a ball that spins back. 

[rehmwa]

23 hours ago, billchao said:

Unless I thin it or catch a slope on the green or something, my irons are usually within a yard or two of my ball mark, assuming normal conditions (not dried out hard greens).

This  ^^.  Especially for full swings

The cleaner my contact the less it rolls.  Even my long irons.

Now, one can play to shot to try and add rollout, but that's something you have to work on.

[shanksalot]

It really is almost impossible. Usually I get some roll out say about 3 to 5 feet on 7 thru GW. yet today I had one back up three feet and another spun back down a slope about 20 feet. Made me feel like a pro but of course the greens were pretty soft and the ball stuck and had some roll back on almost every good shot into the green. So I guess the answer may be .........it depends on the course and softness of the greens.