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Recently, I've been struggling with my three metal. I  went with a softer shaft and adjusted the loft to 16* and that has helped. I think my problem is I'm trying to sweep the ball and today's fairways are designed to be played with a more descending angle of approach.

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5 hours ago, nevets88 said:

For me, difficulty is directly proportional to length.

Of course. Same here and I thought all of was would give an unanimous 

THE DRIVER !

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Interestingly, it's my 3w off the tee.  Not sure why, but I tend to get steep with it.  It's just fine off the deck...

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I gave up the clubs I could not hit over the last few years which include the 3w, and 2i thru 6i, all replaced with hybrids which i can hit fairly well.  I will vote the SW when not in the sand - A full swing can be 40 - 75 yards (user error of course).  

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15 hours ago, nevets88 said:

For me, difficulty is directly proportional to length.

Same for me as well, with the exceptions being that hybrids are easier to hit than irons. Anything longer than a 6I can be a crapshoot.

I pulled my 4H because I'm inconsistent with it but I'm absolute garbage with my 4I so I'm probably putting it back.

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One observation I am making is that a lot of people (including me) seem to have trouble with low lofted irons 2-6 and are opting to go the hybrid route. I had not really hit hybrids before the last two years or so and before that, could use the 3I and 4I half way decent.  I have lost a LOT of distance over the past 18 months and started using the hybrids which helped a lot.

In practice sessions at home, I can hit a 4 iron with little difficulty, but out on the course I am hesitant to try it. I am starting to believe that maybe I should start using those low lofted irons and gain confidence back.  I dunno....age and time are taking their tolls and I am having to recalibrate distances.

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I've been hot and cold this season with fairway woods. Some days I will hit them solidly, other days its low, hot shots that go maybe 160 yards... Related to gauging in set-up shere swing will bottom out. Particularly aggravating: If I have a solid drive on a Par 5 from an elevated tee, I end up only 200 yards from the green. Then, I flub the FW shot.

SW from greenside bunkers also a problem. Practice bunkers at course that don't drain well, plus they fall under sprinkler arc. Sometimes I go down to ninth green late in day to practice off of dry sand. I tend to have good weeks and bad weeks from bunker.

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15 minutes ago, Hacker James said:

One observation I am making is that a lot of people (including me) seem to have trouble with low lofted irons 2-6 and are opting to go the hybrid route. I had not really hit hybrids before the last two years or so and before that, could use the 3I and 4I half way decent.  I have lost a LOT of distance over the past 18 months and started using the hybrids which helped a lot.

In practice sessions at home, I can hit a 4 iron with little difficulty, but out on the course I am hesitant to try it. I am starting to believe that maybe I should start using those low lofted irons and gain confidence back.  I dunno....age and time are taking their tolls and I am having to recalibrate distances.

Some where above I posted about my poor 5W issues. However, I have an old 2i that works quite well for me. It just works with my swing. 

I have gone through that older age, distance loss scenario. Still going through it. I will tack on another birthday next month. More candles equals less yards, and more strokes. Still using the same old swing. Just using different clubs. 

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@Patch  on the age/distance thing, it becomes exponentially more prevalent after age 70.  I am learning to overcome and improvise, but the "body won't do what the mind recalls" thing is a matter of acceptance I guess.   I will break 80 again, but time is running out. I've come close twice this year.   75 yrs and counting....  now where did I hide that four iron?....

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18 hours ago, nevets88 said:

For me, difficulty is directly proportional to length.

Another +1 here.  My exception is the driver which I’d say is about the same difficulty as 6 iron.  That puts 3 wood as the #1 handicap.

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1 hour ago, Hacker James said:

@Patch  on the age/distance thing, it becomes exponentially more prevalent after age 70.  I am learning to overcome and improvise, but the "body won't do what the mind recalls" thing is a matter of acceptance I guess.   I will break 80 again, but time is running out. I've come close twice this year.   75 yrs and counting....  now where did I hide that four iron?....

 

I want to live to be a 100 so I can shoot my age. :-P

80 +/-  is also my target score when I play. Some days are better than others. Better when I don't have to pull my 5W. 

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22 hours ago, nevets88 said:

For me, difficulty is directly proportional to length.

Same. 

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6 iron is the most difficult for me.  It's the longest iron I carry.  I can't hit it at all.  It's baffling.  I wonder, what am I doing with the clubs that I can hit, that I am not doing with the 6 iron?  I'm going to have to get a lesson from a pro, because my efforts with my 6 iron are really pathetic. 

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For me, besides the recent couple weeks of fit with the 3w and 5w and which seem to be fixed now, it's undoubtedly the 4 iron from the deck (anywhere but from the tee), even in a flat fairway lie.

For some reason, all my previous sets had a 4H and I decided to "try" a true 4i with my latest set, a year old now. I can hit it fine slightly teed up, but not with any kind of confidence from the ground...

In second place is a wedge with a full swing, whether the 56 or 60 or even the 50 gap wedge that's part of the iron set. I'll do 1/2 to 3/4, flighted down for the most part, and feel like a rank beginner if I attempt a full swing with them...

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30 minutes ago, sjduffers said:

For me, besides the recent couple weeks of fit with the 3w and 5w and which seem to be fixed now, it's undoubtedly the 4 iron from the deck (anywhere but from the tee), even in a flat fairway lie.

For some reason, all my previous sets had a 4H and I decided to "try" a true 4i with my latest set, a year old now. I can hit it fine slightly teed up, but not with any kind of confidence from the ground...

In second place is a wedge with a full swing, whether the 56 or 60 or even the 50 gap wedge that's part of the iron set. I'll do 1/2 to 3/4, flighted down for the most part, and feel like a rank beginner if I attempt a full swing with them...

You gotta realize that your 4 iron is like an old school 2 or 3 iron...like hitting a pinball with a moving brick wall...maybe firm your left wrist and drag it through the swing..delaying the release really until your left arm is parallel with your left thigh...

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For me its 3W anywhere other then the Tee Box....no issues at all using it on the Tee but when needed in the fairway it's 50/50 for me,  I know it's a mental thing for me and this season I made it priority #1 to use it more and I have (and with better results) but still not the club of choice in a serious round  lol

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3 wood off the turf, and lob wedge. I have never hit a mediocre shot with a lob wedge. It's either good, or terrible. The 3wood is good off the tee, but the 5wood is my choice off the turf.

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