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59 minutes ago, iacas said:

The first thing Brooks says is "I just hate when you sit on the fence. Pick a side." Ummmm, huh? What are they being told that he'd say that? Seems pretty clear to me the OWGR has "picked a side." They said "no."

I'd say the OWGR has picked a side, they've chosen to enforce the rules and procedures they have in place, coupled with the original filing from the MENA tour.  The OWGA isn't supposed to pick a side, they're supposed to be neutral, they're supposed to enforce the current rules and procedures, and/or revise those rules and procedures when appropriate.  So far, it seems that they're doing just that.

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If LIV is going to send golfers to complain about world ranking points, it shouldn't be those two. The only reason these guys want world ranking points is to get into the majors, and Brooks and Bryson are exempt into all the majors for a while still. If they need world ranking points, they can just play well in the majors. Problem solved!

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I wonder if these LIV players saying these things will eventually have self realization of what puppets they are. Probably not because of the LIV money and their egos, but I'm eagerly waiting for the first person to crack.

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52 minutes ago, Darkfrog said:

I wonder if these LIV players saying these things will eventually have self realization of what puppets they are. Probably not because of the LIV money and their egos, but I'm eagerly waiting for the first person to crack.

Agreed.

 

The lack of self-awareness - or perhaps the shameless DISPLAY of a lack of self-awareness, which is even worse - is kind of amazing to me.

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To not get points is kinda crazy as, at least I believe, we have the top players in the world.

Ah, yes. The top players in the world like Chase Koepka (1646), Peter Uihlein (329), James Piot (2704), Laurie Canter (161), Phachara Khongwatmai (154), Bernd Wiesberger (114), Turk Pettit (686), Matthew Wolff (123), Phil Mickelson (134), Jediah Morgan (314), Sihwan Kim (158), Hideto Tanihara (235), Pat Perez (200), etc.

I realize I am cherry picking some names I have never heard of (and a few I know), and of course, to even be ranked in the OWGR means you're a phenomenal player, but FFS, the hyperbole is ridiculous with these LIV player statements.

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Well when you’re young and don’t have the usual worries most people have, and they probably never will, they have to complain about something. Millions of dollars before you’re 30-40…what to do what to do?

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11 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Well when you’re young and don’t have the usual worries most people have, and they probably never will, they have to complain about something. Millions of dollars before you’re 30-40…what to do what to do?

Obviously, you complain about the "unfair" consequences of the actions you knowingly took, which were pretty much blatantly obvious in their impending application.

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LIV has hit some marks. They are playing the correct sport for OWGR points. Clubs and balls and all that

Not that these guys were all that interesting in interviews before LIV, but it certainly hasn’t gotten any better.

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43 minutes ago, iacas said:

 

So this is what will happen if Phil decides to not play an event, right?

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Not sure how many people watched the Shriners this week, but I see that 340,000 watched LIV golf on Sunday for the final round (YouTube). That doesn't sound like a very big number to me but maybe I'm wrong? I want to say the last LIV golf I watched was the final round in Chicago and that number was almost double. I am wondering how they expect to compete against college football and the NFL on fall week-ends?

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1 hour ago, Bucki1968 said:

Not sure how many people watched the Shriners this week, but I see that 340,000 watched LIV golf on Sunday for the final round (YouTube). That doesn't sound like a very big number to me but maybe I'm wrong? I want to say the last LIV golf I watched was the final round in Chicago and that number was almost double. I am wondering how they expect to compete against college football and the NFL on fall week-ends?

I don't think they expect to compete with football in the U.S.

Other than the running commentary on here and the occasional newspaper article, I see or hear extremely little about LIV anywhere else. I didn't even know they had an event this weekend.

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On 10/7/2022 at 4:24 PM, boogielicious said:

So this is what will happen if Phil decides to not play an event, right?

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Next event is in KSA

Im interested to see if anyone actually shows up to watch.  They usually will make it free and through in incentive for people to come out.. The expats will probably flock to it.  It’s in a totally different city from where I live so I won’t be going, but if it was close I probably would go watch since I have never seen pros play.

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11 hours ago, Bucki1968 said:

Not sure how many people watched the Shriners this week, but I see that 340,000 watched LIV golf on Sunday for the final round (YouTube). That doesn't sound like a very big number to me but maybe I'm wrong? I want to say the last LIV golf I watched was the final round in Chicago and that number was almost double. I am wondering how they expect to compete against college football and the NFL on fall week-ends?

They aren't competing with anything; because when you play in Bangkok the live coverage in the US is from about 10:30 PM - 4:00 AM. I mean I love to get up early to watch the Open Championship, but I'm not staying up all night/morning watch the Bangkok member/guest shotgun starts on Youtube

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